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I linked the scaling
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TABS, TABG AND TABZ GD Thread
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King_Dom470
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Its linked right where it says scaling. Also I was going based off of size not physical apperances
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Can't find, and not even find Your pixel scaling
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In the heading it says Scaling with it linked there
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Okay them, trough You probable still use a trout instead to make less especulation
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I'm pretty sure thats not how it works but I did it anyways as a high end
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I mean, Big Mört is literaly a big trout lol, I think It's fair to assume It's iverse square law would apply
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Fair enough the trout one makes him way stronger anywho
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Nice, trough the AP calc is probable not usable lol, sorry
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Well not for scaling to other units no but for big mort himself Ye it should be fine
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I don't think Big Morty should have a profile
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Why not?
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As a character Big Mort was never seen or done anything, It was only mentioned and It don't even has feats, It's entire character is "It's a pet fish, Was kiled and lost It's collar bones"
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Any way, It's still probable scalable to the vOID mONARCH MEANING ANY TROOP THAT COSTthe same or MORE THEM 3000 will scale to LS M what is amazing
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A character like that already exists on the wiki in fact it has even less than mort its literally just a skeleton. In fact it doesn’t even have a canon name unlike mort who has his own little portion of lore on the official tabs lore website
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It's diferent, It scale in combat to actuall leviatans so we have a idea of how It might act and fight giving It indirect feats
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Hum... actaully... Harponner and Laso may make almost everyone be able to scale to class M thanks to beingh able to pull Void Monarch... heheheh~ I bet I can make the entire verse Class M wih that
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I mean is it tho? It's still just making assumptions based on how other leviathans who possibly weren’t even around when the gargantuan leviathan was. Also based on the fact that big mort likely fought with the void monarch and is a pet of the elder gods makes it so that theres enough lore here to make a character profile. Even if the feats are slightly vague theres characters with vaguer feats who still have profiles.
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I don't really like Your assumptions for AP calcs but the weight thing is okay
better make a Question Threadd post for that
changing topic, Halflings can somewhat pull Timemancer down when holding into Them, You think It'S USEFULL?
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A halfling can hold the Time mancer in place if holding It and It's stoped in time... hum... basically they don't let go of the time mancer even when sufering the Knockback of the Timemancer second form, this may be worth something
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okay, better one. The fan benner can push the Timemancer with It's wind, this should be worth more sinse It's a lot consistent them a halfling beingh able to grab a Floating timemancer
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Time mancers are only class 10 for now so it matters little
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I'm planning to when the class M Void monarch becomes a thing
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also, jusst tested, Timemancer can push the tank with It's atacks
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I feel like theres alot more units who should have class 100 lifting strength instead of just dp and sp
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It's a hard debate, especially sinse they need to be able to or lift or push the tank around without needing to use "AP" You know?
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You know what? We should start the debate of "who else scale to thor that costs less then them?" Beacuse depending of the result of the debate, we may start scalig everyone to everything
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The King and Ballista are the only two I can think of rn
Maybe Death Bringer and Skeleton Giant?
Maybe Death Bringer and Skeleton Giant?
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Cheftian can kill the mamoth, and Tree giant, just need to posses It so He isn't that dumb
Also, ignoring the balist. For beingh a glass cannon, if the king is putted to 8-B now every troop that is 1500 or more is also 8-B
And the hwatch should be 8-B too sinse It can one shoot the ice giant
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It just takes many attacks, no?
Because it has many arrows. Each of those individual arrows cannot one-shot the Ice Giant
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Minotaur should 100% be city block level since it can beat the mammoth, and the chieftain can beat the Minotaur, The Pirate captain can easily beat the minotaur, The Knight can spar with the minotaur pretty well same with the Monk. The monkey king honestly should have already been city block I think but they can also beat the minotaur who can beat the mammoth. Honestly based on what i'm seeing most of the high tier units should be city block while the fodder units should stay wall level. The King should be city block level as they can basically stomp the mammoth. Jarl should also be city block since they can put up a pretty decent fight with the king, And can almost oneshot the monkey king who is established to to be city block, Quick draw should be a glass cannon since they can notably damage the king but get oneshotted by most units, Divine arbiter should also be a glass cannon since they insta kill the minotaur. And Zues should be a stone wall as they can take multiple hits from the king but their bolts are relatively week and arent even able to oneshot fodder units. Another glass cannon is Valkyrie who can do decent damage to the king but gets oneshotted. This is all I got for now
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Surprisingly no, Cheftian is kinda of a glass tank, he does great damage and atacks fast, they just normaly die beforv beigh able to use It
Yes? It's one atack all thouse arrows and 1 alread one shoot folders
Any way, It should at leadt be 8-B with Danmaku then
That's basically why It's so confusing to scale the verse, we can't just go of by Stats and the nature of "ragdoll" of the verse mean a lot of unities can quite easy fight in even term with one another....
Okay, how about we start focosing who should have 8-B dura by seeing who get's one shooted by thor lightning and go on after that
(Talking about thor, there is a achivment of "make zeus and thor fight and win with one of them" impling that Thor and zeus are at least comparable one to the other)
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So Chieftain just has really shit durability. Gotcha
Something like that works
Thor stomps Zeus, like, every single time, no? Zeus gets three-shotted by Thor and his thunderbolts barely do shit
At best, I can see "At most City Block level" durability
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That's not the point, It's implied that they are comparable sinse the game literaly has a achivment about making them fight and have any as the wiiner
that's one of the few things we have that has 0 game mechanics on the way
I really think would be easier to everyone be 8-B but some scale a lot down from It, or folder be "9-B, Possible 8-B" but would take a lot of convincing to let this be a thing
Basically
Also we can't forget that the mammoth don't do that much damage IN GAME HAVING iT'S PRICE MOSTLY FOR It's HP and AOE that can completly counter folder meele unities
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I guess that's fair. But is it even possible for Zeus to ever beat Thor 1v1?
So should its AP even scale to Thor's?
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List of who can survive lightning strike:
- Chieftain can survive the lightning strike
- Harvester
- The knight guy and the shield can even deflect an attack
- The King and the king can even beat thor which surprised me
- Minotaur they can also take physical blows from thor as well
- Zeus can take alot of hits but otherwise can't do any damage
- Jarl
- Monk
- Monkey King
- Haliberd
- Jouster can take a physical hit
- Da Vinci Tank
- Pirate Captain
- Cactus
- Boxer
- Wizard and can take physical hits aswell
- Super Boxer they also fold thor very badly
- Ball n Chain
- Executioner
- Mace Spinner
- Vlad Can take physical hits aswell
- Cavalry can take physical hits aswell
- Ullr
- Tree Giant
All these guys should have city block level durability
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? What You mean It can "deflect a atack"? You mean block a Thor normal atack?
Also, I'm almost sure Thor lightning does more damage them It's normal hammer atacks
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Yes I meant that the knights shield could take an attack without being damaged at all
You sure I always thought it was alot weaker for some reason?
