AizenBankai09
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Alright, so here's the deal. We all know Zeno's no slouch when it comes to wiping things out, right? I mean, the guy erased a whole hypertimeline like it was nothing.
Putting him comfortably at Low 1-C with that sweet 5D existence erasure. But what happens when someone undoes all that cosmic cleaning? Enter Super Shenron.
So, let’s talk about this gigantic, gold-plated dragon. Super Shenron is no ordinary dragon—this guy can grant "any" wish, no matter how wild. And it's not just me saying this; we’ve got sources like Zuno (the dude who literally knows everything) and the Grand Priest backing this up and Champa but nobody really cares about him. Even Zeno, the King of All, basically bows down to Super Shenron’s wish-granting powers. The guy who erased entire universes during the Tournament of Power had to respect the dragon’s capabilities. That’s no small feat.
Now, let's get to the meat of this CRT. Zeno’s erasure of multiple universes wasn’t just your everyday wipe—this was 5D EE, the kind that messes with constructs on a whole other level. But guess who reversed that? Yep, Super Shenron. He restored those universes like it was just another Tuesday. The sheer fact that he could bring back something erased on a 5D scale screams Low 1-C potential.
Possible Counterarguments and Why They Don't Hold Up:
1. "B-but Super Shenron only restored universes, not hypertimelines!"
True, but the level of erasure was still 5D. Zeno’s EE scales with his hypertimeline feat, meaning Super Shenron had to revert something on that level, even if it was just universes this time.
2. "Restoring universes isn’t the same as erasing them!"
Sure, but we’re not talking about simple resurrection here. We’re talking about undoing 5D EE, which requires power on the same scale or higher. If Super Shenron can undo that, he’s operating at a Low 1-C level.
3. "What if the wish wasn’t about restoring the universes but creating new ones?"
Even if that’s the case (which is clearly not) , Super Shenron still had to work within the framework of a 5D EE. Resurrecting universes from scratch after a 5D wipe would require Low 1-C power.
4. "Zeno’s respect for Super Shenron doesn’t mean much."
Respect from a guy who casually erases hypertimelines is a pretty big deal. Zeno doesn’t just show that kind of acknowledgment for nothing.
5. "Super Shenron might not be able to grant every wish."
But until we see a wish he can’t grant, especially with Zuno and the Grand Priest vouching for him, we have to assume he’s got what it takes.
6. "Couldn’t Super Shenron have failed if the wish was too much?"
Zeno, the Grand Priest, and Zuno don’t seem to think so, and they know a thing or two about its power.
7. "This doesn’t prove Super Shenron can defeat Zeno."
True, but that’s not the point. We’re talking about the dragon’s ability to reverse a specific kind of erasure, which does suggest Low 1-C rating.
8."There might be limits to Super Shenron’s power."
And yet, we haven’t seen them. Until we do, we should consider what he’s already done.
9. "Super Shenron Didn’t Really Reverse Zeno's Erasure, It's Just Some Fancy Magic!"
Alright, let’s break this down. Some folks out here think that Super Shenron didn’t actually reverse Zeno’s erasure; they argue it’s just some hocus-pocus or fancy wish-granting stuff. But let’s be real—Super Shenron isn’t just doing some parlor tricks here. When Zeno erases, it’s not just some regular deletion—it’s 5D existence erasure, meaning it’s wiping out stuff on a level that’s beyond time and space. Super Shenron straight up reversed that, bringing back the universes that Zeno erased. That’s not just magic; that’s some legit power on the same level as Zeno, if not beyond. So yeah, saying it’s just "fancy magic" is like saying a flamethrower is just a fancy lighter.
10. "What about future feats?"
If anything stronger comes along (which I highly doubt) , we’ll update the tiers. But right now, Super Shenron’s feat stands strong at Low 1-C.
Conclusion:
Super Shenron didn’t just pull off some ordinary wish-making. He straight-up reversed Zeno’s 5D existence erasure, restoring universes that were wiped out on a level that screams Low 1-C. Whether you’re a fan of dragons or just respect cosmic-level feats, this one’s a game-changer. It’s time to recognize Super Shenron for the beast he really is.
Alright so I'm proposing two options here:
1. Atleast 3-B physically, possibly Low 1-C via granting wishes. (both sus' and Killerdrone's pov)
2.Atleast 3-B physically, Low 1-C via granting wishes.
Agree: @Killerdrone123 (1st option) @Sus (1st option) @BestMGQScalerEver (1st option) @LuffyRuffy46307 (1st option) @Quantu (1st option)
@DarkDragonMedeus (1st option)
@LephyrTheRevanchist (1st option) @CloverDragon03 (1st option)
Disagree
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Neutral: @Eseseso
Putting him comfortably at Low 1-C with that sweet 5D existence erasure. But what happens when someone undoes all that cosmic cleaning? Enter Super Shenron.
So, let’s talk about this gigantic, gold-plated dragon. Super Shenron is no ordinary dragon—this guy can grant "any" wish, no matter how wild. And it's not just me saying this; we’ve got sources like Zuno (the dude who literally knows everything) and the Grand Priest backing this up and Champa but nobody really cares about him. Even Zeno, the King of All, basically bows down to Super Shenron’s wish-granting powers. The guy who erased entire universes during the Tournament of Power had to respect the dragon’s capabilities. That’s no small feat.
Now, let's get to the meat of this CRT. Zeno’s erasure of multiple universes wasn’t just your everyday wipe—this was 5D EE, the kind that messes with constructs on a whole other level. But guess who reversed that? Yep, Super Shenron. He restored those universes like it was just another Tuesday. The sheer fact that he could bring back something erased on a 5D scale screams Low 1-C potential.
Possible Counterarguments and Why They Don't Hold Up:
1. "B-but Super Shenron only restored universes, not hypertimelines!"
True, but the level of erasure was still 5D. Zeno’s EE scales with his hypertimeline feat, meaning Super Shenron had to revert something on that level, even if it was just universes this time.
2. "Restoring universes isn’t the same as erasing them!"
Sure, but we’re not talking about simple resurrection here. We’re talking about undoing 5D EE, which requires power on the same scale or higher. If Super Shenron can undo that, he’s operating at a Low 1-C level.
3. "What if the wish wasn’t about restoring the universes but creating new ones?"
Even if that’s the case (which is clearly not) , Super Shenron still had to work within the framework of a 5D EE. Resurrecting universes from scratch after a 5D wipe would require Low 1-C power.
4. "Zeno’s respect for Super Shenron doesn’t mean much."
Respect from a guy who casually erases hypertimelines is a pretty big deal. Zeno doesn’t just show that kind of acknowledgment for nothing.
5. "Super Shenron might not be able to grant every wish."
But until we see a wish he can’t grant, especially with Zuno and the Grand Priest vouching for him, we have to assume he’s got what it takes.
6. "Couldn’t Super Shenron have failed if the wish was too much?"
Zeno, the Grand Priest, and Zuno don’t seem to think so, and they know a thing or two about its power.
7. "This doesn’t prove Super Shenron can defeat Zeno."
True, but that’s not the point. We’re talking about the dragon’s ability to reverse a specific kind of erasure, which does suggest Low 1-C rating.
8."There might be limits to Super Shenron’s power."
And yet, we haven’t seen them. Until we do, we should consider what he’s already done.
9. "Super Shenron Didn’t Really Reverse Zeno's Erasure, It's Just Some Fancy Magic!"
Alright, let’s break this down. Some folks out here think that Super Shenron didn’t actually reverse Zeno’s erasure; they argue it’s just some hocus-pocus or fancy wish-granting stuff. But let’s be real—Super Shenron isn’t just doing some parlor tricks here. When Zeno erases, it’s not just some regular deletion—it’s 5D existence erasure, meaning it’s wiping out stuff on a level that’s beyond time and space. Super Shenron straight up reversed that, bringing back the universes that Zeno erased. That’s not just magic; that’s some legit power on the same level as Zeno, if not beyond. So yeah, saying it’s just "fancy magic" is like saying a flamethrower is just a fancy lighter.
10. "What about future feats?"
If anything stronger comes along (which I highly doubt) , we’ll update the tiers. But right now, Super Shenron’s feat stands strong at Low 1-C.
Conclusion:
Super Shenron didn’t just pull off some ordinary wish-making. He straight-up reversed Zeno’s 5D existence erasure, restoring universes that were wiped out on a level that screams Low 1-C. Whether you’re a fan of dragons or just respect cosmic-level feats, this one’s a game-changer. It’s time to recognize Super Shenron for the beast he really is.
Alright so I'm proposing two options here:
1. Atleast 3-B physically, possibly Low 1-C via granting wishes. (both sus' and Killerdrone's pov)
2.Atleast 3-B physically, Low 1-C via granting wishes.
Agree: @Killerdrone123 (1st option) @Sus (1st option) @BestMGQScalerEver (1st option) @LuffyRuffy46307 (1st option) @Quantu (1st option)
@DarkDragonMedeus (1st option)
@LephyrTheRevanchist (1st option) @CloverDragon03 (1st option)
Disagree
![Face vomiting :face_vomiting: 🤮](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f92e.png)
Neutral: @Eseseso
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