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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Damage3245 said:
I don't get why Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind are reduced to just gag-style fodders at this point. They had an epic multi-chapter fight against Flashy Flash (where they were outclassed but still impressive) and since their defeat they've only shown up as jokes since then. It doesn't make these new ninjas appear any more impressive; compare literally anything they've done to the fight that Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind showcased. It doesn't come across as funny if it's just the same gag over and over again of "These guys are trash, and everyone treats them like trash including their comrades". Maybe I'm just jaded at this point, but I just don't get it.
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If Hellfire and Gale are truly stronger than their monster forms, and the Heavenly Ninja Party are all considerably stronger than their new selves... you would expect nothing less than a constellation to rival the initial Flashy vs Platinum vs Garou fight. I'm afraid we won't get anything close to that.

I think the issue here is that the manga is trying to revert to the webcomic timeline while overlooking the fact that Hellfire and Gale in the manga are NOT the same as the Hot Rod brothers or whatever the hell they were called in the webcomic (honestly don't remember their names haha). And manga Flashy Flash is not the same webcomic character who was speed first, skill second, power third and durability fourth

I might just be bitter because Flashy tanked dozens of attacks from characters arguably stronger than Gouketsu, Elder Centipede and every other dragon who has really wowed us. I'm not asking for nuclear explosions but I would be lying if the MA arc didn't raise my expectations when it comes to a large group of fighters who can give Flashy Flash issues.
 
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whats bro doing with that shovel

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goofy ahh ninjas
 
Swagoorago said:
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whats bro doing with that shovel
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Digging his own grave
Swagoorago said:
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goofy ahh ninjas
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Hey don't talk about my guy Murky Darkness like that
 
Damage3245 said:
I don't get why Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind are reduced to just gag-style fodders at this point. They had an epic multi-chapter fight against Flashy Flash (where they were outclassed but still impressive) and since their defeat they've only shown up as jokes since then. It doesn't make these new ninjas appear any more impressive; compare literally anything they've done to the fight that Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind showcased. It doesn't come across as funny if it's just the same gag over and over again of "These guys are trash, and everyone treats them like trash including their comrades". Maybe I'm just jaded at this point, but I just don't get it.
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Sonic had the same thing going for a while
 
YUGOLEDIABOLIQUE said:
Chapter is out !
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[第244話] ワンパンマン - ＯＮＥ/村田雄介 | となりのヤングジャンプ

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OPM has been a big nothingburger since years ago i will hang myself

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Swagoorago said:
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whats bro doing with that shovel

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goofy ahh ninjas
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glockjutsu
 
I'm ngl, at this point I liked Empty Void way more when he was "That Man" and got fodderized instantly.
 
if you think about it, God is 4-A at max, since all multiversal and higher dimensional shit is gone xD
 
Yes lol, I thought the moments of Blast talking about higher dimensions were still there, but I just checked and nope
 
Fr, Monster Association arc was a pretty divisive point for the OPM fandom. It was the series peak in both webcomic and manga, but for completely different reasons.

In the webcomic Garou vs Saitama was barely more impressive than Boros vs Saitama in terms of scale(Even if it had much better fighting choreography) and the arc peaked due to Garou's character development, wich had a very satisfying ending for him, extra information about the limiter was also a neat little bonus. God and blast were also very sparsely mentioned, wich also kept a lot of interesting plot points intact for the future and allowed the series to keep most of it's hype even after it ended.

Meanwhile the Manga shifted MA focus from Garou's character arc to God and Blast's fight for mankind, sacrificing his character development and one of the more well written segments of the story for heavy lore dumps and a great amp in stakes, causing a "Meteoric Burst" effect, where we got a single massive peak ( to the point of breaking the bubble) at the cost of sacrificing future plot points that could have kept more interest in the story itself in long term.

Now we pretty much need God and blast to be involved to make your average character driven arc seem like it's not a sidequest, and the cost of getting them involved every time is cheapening the mistery and hype around them, since they can't act like the endgame characters they were by design made to be.
 
Epiccheev said:
Now we pretty much need God and blast to be involved to make your average character driven arc seem like it's not a sidequest, and the cost of getting them involved every time is cheapening the mistery and hype around them, since they can't act like the endgame characters they were by design made to be.
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to be honest in the webcomic they barely even exists, they are so mysteryous that knowing nothing about them is more like what happens with Watchdog man...
 
Epiccheev said:
Fr, Monster Association arc was a pretty divisive point for the OPM fandom. It was the series peak in both webcomic and manga, but for completely different reasons.

In the webcomic Garou vs Saitama was barely more impressive than Boros vs Saitama in terms of scale(Even if it had much better fighting choreography) and the arc peaked due to Garou's character development, wich had a very satisfying ending for him, extra information about the limiter was also a neat little bonus. God and blast were also very sparsely mentioned, wich also kept a lot of interesting plot points intact for the future and allowed the series to keep most of it's hype even after it ended.

Meanwhile the Manga shifted MA focus from Garou's character arc to God and Blast's fight for mankind, sacrificing his character development and one of the more well written segments of the story for heavy lore dumps and a great amp in stakes, causing a "Meteoric Burst" effect, where we got a single massive peak ( to the point of breaking the bubble) at the cost of sacrificing future plot points that could have kept more interest in the story itself in long term.

Now we pretty much need God and blast to be involved to make your average character driven arc seem like it's not a sidequest, and the cost of getting them involved every time is cheapening the mistery and hype around them, since they can't act like the endgame characters they were by design made to be.
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I think Murata should redraw everything starting from the arrival of the Sage Centipede and Evil Natural Ocean
 
Epiccheev said:
Fr, Monster Association arc was a pretty divisive point for the OPM fandom. It was the series peak in both webcomic and manga, but for completely different reasons.

In the webcomic Garou vs Saitama was barely more impressive than Boros vs Saitama in terms of scale(Even if it had much better fighting choreography) and the arc peaked due to Garou's character development, wich had a very satisfying ending for him, extra information about the limiter was also a neat little bonus. God and blast were also very sparsely mentioned, wich also kept a lot of interesting plot points intact for the future and allowed the series to keep most of it's hype even after it ended.

Meanwhile the Manga shifted MA focus from Garou's character arc to God and Blast's fight for mankind, sacrificing his character development and one of the more well written segments of the story for heavy lore dumps and a great amp in stakes, causing a "Meteoric Burst" effect, where we got a single massive peak ( to the point of breaking the bubble) at the cost of sacrificing future plot points that could have kept more interest in the story itself in long term.

Now we pretty much need God and blast to be involved to make your average character driven arc seem like it's not a sidequest, and the cost of getting them involved every time is cheapening the mistery and hype around them, since they can't act like the endgame characters they were by design made to be.
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Nah, you're interpreting it wrong. The manga balanced Garou's character development and revealing of God. Garou pretty much thought that he already achieve his goal but doesn't realized there's consequences on it. CFM Garou and Saitama fight showed him that. Yeah a character driven arc as well as sneak peek of endgame arc.

The involvement of God in every arc is already given since the introduction of him. Why you're calling yourself a God when you're not present for scheming tactics against humanity. This like proving his omnipresence in the story rather other entity who will just show one time and giving a statement of being omnipresent without actually being present in the whole storyline.
 
I do agree that they may have jumped into the God and Blast way more than they should have but I don't think it would really diminish any of the coming arcs, it just has to be balanced carefully which seems to be the purpose of the redraws by bringing it down a notch and most importantly not letting Void directly mess with Flashy and Sonic making them bystanders in their own arc

Another thing to clarify is that in the webcomic there is no mention of Blast and God because it's apparent that ONE had no clue what to do with them, and seeing the redraws it's obvious he still hasn't fully figured it out. Hell, webcomic Blue takes design cues from Manga Blast because WC Blast just isn't a character.

We'll see what happens in the coming chapters, really now the only thing we can do is wait
 
To me the priorities of this redrawn Ninja Arc should be:

1- Give Sonic and Flashy any kind of development: The WC Ninja Arc is among the worst in OPM because effectively nothing happens for Flashy and Sonic as characters, we get a flashback to the hellish Village regime and how they were friends back then but after that it's completely dropped and both of them go on their own way having learned nothing. The whole arc just ends up being a convoluted way to give the two a power level buff which they barely use with Flashy being sent off-screen to deal with the Dark Ones and Sonic killing some robots and then ******* off to have breakfast.

2- Do something with Gale and Hellfire: ONE you went out of your way to revive them and have them come back for this arc, do something with them...

3- Void and Blast: This is what so far has deviated from the webcomic, I honestly don't care much about their fight but might as well feed the powerscaler side of the fandom a bit. I'm more interested in how their previous relationship will be explored.

4- Saitama: funny punch bald man

But that's just me, maybe you guys think otherwise
 
Recon1511 said:
1- Give Sonic and Flashy any kind of development: The WC Ninja Arc is among the worst in OPM because effectively nothing happens for Flashy and Sonic as characters, we get a flashback to the hellish Village regime and how they were friends back then but after that it's completely dropped and both of them go on their own way having learned nothing. The whole arc just ends up being a convoluted way to give the two a power level buff which they barely use with Flashy being sent off-screen to deal with the Dark Ones and Sonic killing some robots and then ******* off to have breakfast.
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and the redraws only make people have more reasons to consider it the worst arc.
 
Epiccheev said:
Webcomic has so little direct mentions of god that people legit thought there was a chance he was just a hallucination created by HE's warped mind and messiah complex.
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People speculated for a long time that Garou's transformation and Shibawawa's prophecy were both caused by "God". We also had the statement about how the energy balls of HE, Vaccine Man and Choze were all same, which led to a whole chain of theories about how "God" was behind many things.
 
Recon1511 said:
2- Do something with Gale and Hellfire: ONE you went out of your way to revive them and have them come back for this arc, do something with them...
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Actually they have. The monster to human reversion thing. For the battle I don't expect from them anymore they already have their own highlights and the two previous versions did the same thing.
 
Engine said:
Actually they have. The monster to human reversion thing. For the battle I don't expect from them anymore they already have their own highlights and the two previous versions did the same thing.
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I'd rather it be something other than being turned into guinea pigs but yeah...

It was never explained why they seem to have resisted the Village programming though, like, they are the only Ninjas that can fight cohesively in a team because they train together other than Flashy and Sonic
 
2 weeks for 17 pages of dialogue we've basically seen before.

Btw not to side-track but does anyone remember when Murata posted a gif of the HA HQ crumbling? Do we still think that's gonna be a thing. I think he just dropped it.
 
BeTheWay1rst said:
From Cosmic Void to Empty screen time is crazy 😭
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This honestly might be for the best. Empty Void being built up and not showing his hand would make his reveal more shocking... if we hadn't seen this arc too many times, lol. In terms of satisfying fans right now the easiest thing would be to take things up a notch and add crazy new content, but I think that would come at the expense of the long term narrative tbh
Quangotjokes said:
What exactly do you guys want from opm?
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In isolation, I would be pretty happy about this latest version of the ninja village arc if it released back in 2023 instead of 2025. I don't think what we're getting now is bad by any means. Now if there were bigger, flashier feats that would really elevate the choreography, that would be wonderful. I'm just tired of this arc going through it's third run without giving me the Blast vs Void fight I was most excited for

Just give me a fun new twist on the speedster constellation concept right now and I'll call it a day
 
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