do you remember the ova episode? where he was sneezing because it was cold. it wasnt scaled. but even then. either use wall lvl or large building. difference is extremely massive. divide them and get a number with 30 zeros :d
Ok, thanks
the result was far above universal, this is absurd, I tried to use the solar system level for the serious punch.
I don't know what kind of smoke they are smoking here, but they should have left the growth chart alone. They are reading too much into it than intended
Obviously it much higher then 59x his by virtue of his growth being exponential in mere seconds he’s far far far far far far far beyond 59 times
I don’t even know how they got that number in the first place and it’s 100% wrong as the chart was to represent growth not a specific value I’m pretty sure just using feats and common sense debunks 59 times
try to scale zero punch and casual saitama as well if you want. its easy to see saitama one shots garou casually when he was using zero punch. casual saitama was like planet lvl. after growth. while being casual, one shotting 4-A. still has massive difference. or the difference between fart.
nowhen both saitama and garou used this move. there seems to be something like energy/electricity? is it accepted as anything in this wiki?
for what?
the current chapter
I think so too, but it's just a low estimate, since we don't know the exact values.
the one in the future has been holding back, he passively was growing do to the emotions
compare his casual self to his future casual self. or his fart. or his sneeze. the difference is like million million trillion times
.Yeah but not unknown enough to say he can be defeated by a single puppy in his normal cell count
which makes absolutely no sense especially when he’s grown and adapted far higher then something as little as 59x times saitama growth is also stated to be exponential when you start applying exponents it’s far higher then just a flat x59 boost if you calc saitama really should be close to base line universal in a matter of seconds
Shouldn't "Varies from 10-C to High 7-A" be better than simply leaving his durability at Unknown? His stronger clones can endure the force of punching Atomic Samurai without breaking themselves (then again AS having High 7-A durability is kind of suspicious...)
Its not wrong, its just the highest multiplier we can get from the graph. Considering he still powers up there's more to it, but there's no way to really get a number from it that's not guess work.
Whenever you see the following justification
Shenanigans are afoot.
It is wrong because we know he grew more then x59 by the fact Garou couldn’t even comprehend meaning using common sense garou can understand something that’s as little as x59 of where he started
Its not wrong, its just not what he maxed out at. He gets stronger but we don't know by how much. We're not allowed to just give him a random number.
A x59 difference allows Saitama to one shot him with a laughably small amount of effort.
It is wrong because he grew more than x59 what’s so hard to understand? You just give him no number at all saitama grows exponential so if you can’t calc it more then x59 then it shouldn’t even be on his profile as it’s not even a lowball it’s just flat out wrong because we know he’s above it
yeah and so does being far beyond x59 this is irrelevant
You not understanding what the multiplier means doesn't mean its wrong. He's at least 59x his strength at the start of the fight by that graph, he does grow stronger but we don't know by how much so we made him a minimum of 59x stronger. Its not a hard cap and his removed limiter has the following justification
We already accept on the profile that Saitama can become 3-A.
You not getting it doesn't make it irrelevant.
it means it’s wrong if you say saitama grew x59 but he grew far far far beyond it means it’s wrong?
Yeah but with how slow y’all put it that would never be achievable in any fight since an entire fight with garou only supposedly got him x59
It is irrelevant because it’s not x59 it’s far far far far far higher
Its not wrong, its just not where he maxed out as. The profile lists it as his base strength and he grows from there. Since the profile requires a number or a statement for a Tier we have to use what the graph gave us.
Saitama only grew when Garou endless copied him, which resulted in his growth in power. So he only grew at the end portion of the fight.
As before, you not getting it doesn't make it irrelevant, it just means you don't get why we do things.
And? He still grew far more then x59 which is literally stated at the end of the fight and considering how many blows happened during their fight that tier is still not possible with how slow this site has his growth as
as before it is irrelevant both get the same results of him casually one shotting garou
We need the number so he can have an AP rating. But he's not limited to it. The 59x is just a minimum.
why not consider the proportion of sneezes? This could even make it universal. Considering that at minimum values his strength doubles every second, with a little more than 1m he would be able to reach the universal level, which makes it plausible.
The gap between the sneeze and the serious punch clash is 180.75 Quintillion. The gap between a human's rest energy and going all out is a fraction of a fraction of that strength difference.
