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Forte has been in the manga?
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Forte has been in the manga?
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According to Aizen (one of the smartest characters in Bleach), you can resist soul crush if you have enough physical strength.
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Search for better hax, Aizen. Saitama is getting serious.
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.... isn't Ichigo still a soul?
Search for better hax, Aizen. Saitama is getting serious.
I mean a soul physical power is a physical power or a soul power?????
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your argument falls flat because in my brain high 3-A GER with fate manipulation and soul manipulation is canon
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I read an argument that said that at this point other shinigami could no longer feel Aizen's reiatsu due to him being "on another dimension of power" Aizen could no longer feel Ichigo's Reiatsu because he had been surpassed the same way, ans in order to cope he decided to assume all his reiatsu had been turned into physical strength.
Search for better hax, Aizen. Saitama is getting serious.
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Feats or it never happened is supported by Mark Twain.
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Search for better hax, Aizen. Saitama is getting serious.
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He was wrong but he didn't question why Ichigo could stand near him despite just being physically strong. That means he assumed that someone with enough physical strength can survive being near him.
If this is the sequence you’re referring to, can you point out where that is said?
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Chapter this Thursday right?
or did it switch to an entirely different day just cause
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Who's the strongest in the bleach verse again?
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Megaraptor149
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Maybe in the future it will happen
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I hope so.
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bleach fodder. yhwach planetary level. gg
anyways, ichigo is hill level tbh.
tl:dr, goku solos.
anyways, ichigo is hill level tbh.
tl:dr, goku solos.
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It is quite funny as in some series you need several statements that the light is real, that the character is LS, after that we need to see if it has the properties of real light like refraction, reflection, etc., only after the character be considered LS.
But other more famous franchises like OP and Naruto don't have to go through all this, someone said it's light so ok
But other more famous franchises like OP and Naruto don't have to go through all this, someone said it's light so ok
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That is insanely wrong. It took years for Naruto to become LS, and (from what I've seen) didn't have anywhere near the contradictory properties.
Also, tf, it's not remotely about popularity. While Naruto may be more popular globally, I believe OPM (Saitama specifically) is more popular on the wiki.
We have guidelines on this.
Also, tf, it's not remotely about popularity. While Naruto may be more popular globally, I believe OPM (Saitama specifically) is more popular on the wiki.
We have guidelines on this.
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Years of discursion, it was never necessary to show reflection or refraction in madara's attack or prove that it was a real laser/light.
all that was used to sustain was a vague description in a databook
The calculation used was this about light fang, but what proof is that Light fang is LS?
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all that was used to sustain was a vague description in a databook
The calculation used was this about light fang, but what proof is that Light fang is LS?
Naruto: Naruto dodged Light Fang
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They don't have to. Those are guidelines, and only based on very specific criteria (i.e it has to interact with a reflective source in the first place).
The minimum is not massively contradicting properties of light and being consistently described as light or light-speed.
The minimum is not massively contradicting properties of light and being consistently described as light or light-speed.
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Did this happen to Light Fang? I really don't remember
Because besides the name doesn't bear much resemblance to light
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Haven’t scaled Boruto’s dad in eons. What exactly does the databook say?
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I'm not saying it did. I'm saying it doesn't necessarily have to.
It's confirmed by a databook to be light and move at light-speed.
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Which makes it vague and subject to questioning.
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IDK man, soul physiology is weird. Like children get born and stuff in Soul Society.
But souls with weak Reiatsu get passively deleted by Aizen, but Aizen doesn't think this is a problem for someone with ultra-high physical stats but non-existent Reiatsu.
This is what ended up being true, but a valid possibility per Aizen is that Ichigo just has really high physicals. If a foremost expert in Reiatsu hypothesizes that having high physicals can make up for complete lack of Reiatsu in a fight, who are we to object?
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That's because we know how reliable databooks are, right?
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I literally don't need it, since it couldn't care less.
I just brought here an example of the difference in the treatment between the series
I still remember the headache to accept bc light as real, even though it was declared LS, having reflection and refraction.
When Naruto didn't need any of this
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Again, Light Fang took years to get accepted. This did happen to Naruto, just before arguments about G4's lasers were even a thing (2017, IIRC).
The OPM laser wasn't rejected because it didn't display any properties of light, it was rejected because it also displayed properties that light beams can't perform (i.e bending in an impossible fashion).
These are very different reasons.
Personally, I'm fine with G4 and G5's lasers being light-speed, but they break the wiki's light rules, and Madara's Light Fang doesn't.
The OPM laser wasn't rejected because it didn't display any properties of light, it was rejected because it also displayed properties that light beams can't perform (i.e bending in an impossible fashion).
These are very different reasons.
Personally, I'm fine with G4 and G5's lasers being light-speed, but they break the wiki's light rules, and Madara's Light Fang doesn't.
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I know that, I've never advocated any OPM lasers.
I just raised the fact that Naruto's Light Fang also dont have any proof to be light despite the name and never had to prove to have LS, although other lesser-known series like Black Clover need to go through a whole trial process
In addition to other series like One Piece being explicitly declared as just LS in expecificos attacks (Who did not react by anyone in the series), but the comunidad of fans has so much Wank that they just don't care about it
I just raised the fact that Naruto's Light Fang also dont have any proof to be light despite the name and never had to prove to have LS, although other lesser-known series like Black Clover need to go through a whole trial process
In addition to other series like One Piece being explicitly declared as just LS in expecificos attacks (Who did not react by anyone in the series), but the comunidad of fans has so much Wank that they just don't care about it
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The simple fact that Databooks are full of errors and have never been trusted, becoming only when it suits a fan. As in this caseHow is this even vague?
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Sounds like a skill issue to me
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Cope
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If you know that, then why are you still arguing? This isn't hard to understand. Naruto = non-contradictory. Those other ones = contradictory. It's not about the level of sheer proof afforded to either one of them (although that does help) and they're totally incomparable.
It has **** all to do with popularity, especially since popularity IRL isn't 1:1 with the popularity of wiki verses. If it had anything to do with popularity, way more verses would be light-speed.
As proof of my claim, did you know that the manga for NNT is even more popular than OPM? You wouldn't be able to tell if you were just going by the wiki, which only just allowed a light-speed statement for Ludoshel and way less of a fanbase.
For the last time, there was a massive trial process for Naruto.
No. You are highly mistaken. It's light speed because one character is capable of transforming into massless, reflective light that tons of characters can react to. Plus, his laser abilities were added to Pacifistas.
In fact, One Piece is an example of another verse that needed a big trial for this. Previously, very few characters were rated at FTL because Kizaru's light form is one of the series' fastest characters, but so many calcs based on characters moving faster than his light form prompted us to allow FTL One Piece.
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