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[AtomicSekiro]

I’m still waiting for proof that Psykorochi, despite never showing strain nor stamina loss, is somehow choosing to hold back against her mortal, ultimate enemy. I don’t need to prove anything. You’re making the claims of things which don’t exist.

 

[ImposingTiger]

I’m still waiting for proof that Psykorochi, despite never showing strain nor stamina loss, is somehow choosing to hold back against her mortal, ultimate enemy. I don’t need to prove anything. You’re making the claims of things which don’t exist.

She is not holding back. She just can't go all out because she is firing attacks at a more rapid pace to keep up with the battle, and as a result the attacks became weaker and slower.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

The beams aren't from God. God just amped the fusion. The power itself comes from a mixture between Orochi and Psykos.


She mantains her first beam for a much longer period of time than the following ones. I already explained it, no need to repeat myself.


He is stated to use the same energy as Vaccine Man, whose databook explains he gathers bioenergy from the environment.


No? One boost gives the user the ability to gather energy from an external source while the other boost is an amplification of a fusion, they aren't the same.

You still haven’t proven the smaller beams are somehow weaker or slower.

”She maintains her first beam for much longer” This is just irrelevant. Also, prove it.

They’re the same boost. They both got their boost from an external source. Neither of them ever show stamina issues.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

She is not holding back. She just can't go all out because she is firing attacks at a more rapid pace to keep up with the battle, and as a result the attacks became weaker and slower.

“She is holding back”

Lol. Why? Why would she? Tatsumaki is literally her one, sole, only, ultimate, THE END enemy. She is her final boss. Why would she be holding back?? Lmao.

Again, you still haven’t proven the beams being fired faster means they’re weaker. She doesn’t need to charge them. She fires them almost instantly, unless you think Tatsumaki just sat there watching her charge the first one up, without even thinking to dodge or put up a barrier.

 

[ImposingTiger]

You still haven’t proven the smaller beams are somehow weaker or slower

I have on my post above.

This is just irrelevant. Also, prove it.

It isn't, it is the reason why it's stronger and faster. She did a whole 180 with her body. She couldn't move her body like that later on, other than spamming attacks. The first one took more time.

They’re the same boost. They both got their boost from an external source. Neither of them ever show stamina issues.

They aren't the same boost. Stamina is not a factor here, you don't seem to understand.

 

[ImposingTiger]

“She is holding back”

Do you know how to read? I said "NOT" lmao.

Again, you still haven’t proven the beams being fired faster means they’re weaker. She doesn’t need to charge them. She fires them almost instantly, unless you think Tatsumaki just sat there watching her charge the first one up, without even thinking to dodge or put up a barrier.

I proved it. Not my fault if you don't want to accept it. Read it again.

 

[EnderLord8]

One user with Boros's profile picture vs another with Tatsumaki's profile picture having a battle of arguments... How ironic.

Even when not discussing a Tatsumaki vs Boros battle, it still happens.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

I have on my post above.

It isn't, it is the reason why it's stronger and faster. She did a whole 180 with her body. She couldn't move her body like that later on, other than spamming attacks. The first one took more time.

They aren't the same boost. Stamina is not a factor here, you don't seem to understand.

Your post above was debunked.

Secondly, wut? She fired the beam and swung it. She does an identical move later on when Tatsumaki lifted the coast line. You’re just ignoring things to downplay characters.

 

[ImposingTiger]

One user with Boros's profile picture vs another with Tatsumaki's profile picture having a battle of arguments... How ironic.

Even when not discussing a Tatsumaki vs Boros battle, it still happens.

Yeah, and you are incarnate justice and objectively right on every matter.
I am just defending a position, as I would defend a position aganinst my favourite character (which is not Boros btw) being wanked, because I seek for truth.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Your post above was debunked.

No, it wasn't, you didn't even address it properly.

Secondly, wut? She fired the beam and swung it. She does an identical move later on when Tatsumaki lifted the coast line. You’re just ignoring things to downplay characters.

No, she did it while spamming attacks, they are not the same.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Should we update Okama's profile?

 

[EnderLord8]

Yeah, and you are incarnate justice and objectively right on every matter.
I am just defending a position, as I would defend a position aganinst my favourite character (which is not Boros btw) being wanked, because I seek for truth.

I was just pointing out something I thought was funny, I didn't try to offend anyone.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

When will the High 7-A upgrade be applied.

 

[Magmag]

When will the High 7-A upgrade be applied.

for SC? We're waiting till next chapter i think.

 

[Phoenks]

When will the High 7-A upgrade be applied.

Are you talking about Garou and others scaling to Homeless Emperor or scaling to Sage Centipede?

 

[Phoenks]

I created a sandbox for Sage Centipede.

 

[TheLastStylebender]

Can't we ban Boros vs Tatsumaki debate? I think It's useless discussion

 

[Ourosboros]

I'm not American

Shh don't tell him

 

[Quangotjokes]

I created a sandbox for Sage Centipede.

Sage might have energy blasts, I'm calling it now.

 

[Phoenks]

Sage might have energy blasts, I'm calling it now.

I hope Murata gives him Orochi energy beams

 

[Kin201]

I created a sandbox for Sage Centipede.

Add this to your sandbox

Speed: Likely FTL reactions (Seemed reacted to Garou, who was moving faster than light)

 

[Kin201]

@Quangotjokes I was kinda joking, but we'll know soon whether it can or cannot react to him.

 

[ImposingTiger]

I was just pointing out something I thought was funny, I didn't try to offend anyone.

Sorry, I got too heated. Sekiro is always so hard to deal with.

 

[Tural2004]

I created a sandbox for Sage Centipede.

Awesome. But am I only one who thinks he should get "Presumably all of Elder Centipede's abilities"?

 

[Phoenks]

Awesome. But am I only one who thinks he should get "Presumably all of Elder Centipede's abilities"

This centipede could be vastly different.

 

[Tural2004]

This centipede could be vastly different.

The story seems to heavily imply that he is superior of EC. Garou even calls him boss of EC. SC having his abilities doesn't seem far-fetched to me.

 

[Quangotjokes]

@Quangotjokes I was kinda joking, but we'll know soon whether it can or cannot react to him.

I know. But I'm sure it might

 

[Ourosboros]

Sage Centipede also might have Orochi's abilities, it's impossible to know what he's got until we see him in action. Him having a mix of Orochi's and EC's abilities could be really interesting. However, if they give him that much versatility EOW is going to look a little bland in comparison, I hope EOW gets some stuff as well.

 

[Phoenks]

By the way, I'm going to start using the front page of this thread to list out recent calculations that have been done. That way it makes it easier for all of us to find them after they've been buried under these pages of text. Not sure why I hadn't been doing this before xD

 

[Muuuuh]

I don't know if this image has already been posted here, but maybe it will help
in some calculation or to put as proof in calculations

 

[Muuuuh]

never mind, every place has a different one





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[Theendzero13]

So did we came to a consensus about the first constellation feat?

 

[Ourosboros]

So did we came to a consensus about the first constellation feat?

Currently, the feat is valued at 1.19 times the speed of light via Nick Helton's calculation which has been accepted, however, there are other calculations in the works which may also be used. We're not going to implement the changes for at least another week, so any calculation that comes up and is accepted before then will be considered. Actually, y'know what lemme repost what'll be in the next CRT (to my knowledge).

 

[Ourosboros]

REPOST
Hope this helps you with the list Phoenks.
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Also, I think we should hold off on the 156 CRT until we get 157 and see if Garou really did harm Sage Centipede, and how EOW scales to the other two. Looking at the list of what we have, I think everyone will agree it is best to wait another chapter before creating profiles and implementing changes.

What will the CRT contain? I can think of the following:
1. Profiles for Sage Centipede and a new key for EOW, with all that entails.

• Sage Centipede = 6-C, Island Level, High Hypersonic via emerging from the ground in 2 seconds. Large Size type 2, abilities unknown.
• EOW = High 6-C, Large Island Level, at least massively hypersonic, likely higher. Large Size type 2, previous abilities, more abilities unknown.

2. Update Garou, Platinum Sperm, Flashy Flash profiles, updated speed, new resistances, new abilities and new techniques.

• Pre-Awakening Garou= speed should be upgraded to FTL (1.19 SOL), air manipulation (via Gouketsu's technique which is part of God Slayer), all the techniques listed in Monster God Slayer Fist, Monster Calamity God Slayer fist itself, possible poison manipulation via the poisonous ogre fist
• Platinum Sperm= speed should be upgraded to FTL(1.19 SOL), resistance to Whirlwind/Cross Fang/Roaring Aura dura neg from God Slayer fist, possible poison resistance, new acrobatics ability, new attack deflection ability (via platinum rings), new platinum rings technique
• Flashy Flash= same resistances as Platinum, speed does not change, new flowing shadow feet technique, new flashy fist technique

3. Update Garou, Platinum Sperm and Flashy Flash's AP. If Garou ends up scaling to Sage Centipede's durability, then Platinum and Flashy Flash are due for an AP upgrade. We can either downscale them from Sage Centipede's feat or simply scale them to Homeless (they already scale above the sun blade which is at least 1/35th the ball's AP).

• We should also discuss which calc should be used for their speed. NikHelton is the only accepted one I know of, but Darth, Timmy and Kulf-Boba all have their own calcs for this feat.

4. Update King's lifting strength

• King is quite powerful.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Should we update Okama's profile?

Based on the information you've provided we probably should.

 

[Kachon123]

REPOST
Hope this helps you with the list Phoenks.
_____________________________________________
Also, I think we should hold off on the 156 CRT until we get 157 and see if Garou really did harm Sage Centipede, and how EOW scales to the other two. Looking at the list of what we have, I think everyone will agree it is best to wait another chapter before creating profiles and implementing changes.

What will the CRT contain? I can think of the following:
1. Profiles for Sage Centipede and a new key for EOW, with all that entails.

• Sage Centipede = 6-C, Island Level, High Hypersonic via emerging from the ground in 2 seconds. Large Size type 2, abilities unknown.
• EOW = High 7-A, Large Mountain Level, at least massively hypersonic, likely higher. Large Size type 2, previous abilities, more abilities unknown.

2. Update Garou, Platinum Sperm, Flashy Flash profiles, updated speed, new resistances, new abilities and new techniques.

• Pre-Awakening Garou= speed should be upgraded to FTL (1.19 SOL), air manipulation (via Gouketsu's technique which is part of God Slayer), all the techniques listed in Monster God Slayer Fist, Monster Calamity God Slayer fist itself, possible poison manipulation via the poisonous ogre fist
• Platinum Sperm= speed should be upgraded to FTL(1.19 SOL), resistance to Whirlwind/Cross Fang/Roaring Aura dura neg from God Slayer fist, possible poison resistance, new acrobatics ability, new attack deflection ability (via platinum rings), new platinum rings technique
• Flashy Flash= same resistances as Platinum, speed does not change, new flowing shadow feet technique, new flashy fist technique

3. Update Garou, Platinum Sperm and Flashy Flash's AP. If Garou ends up scaling to Sage Centipede's durability, then Platinum and Flashy Flash are due for an AP upgrade. We can either downscale them from Sage Centipede's feat or simply scale them to Homeless (they already scale above the sun blade which is at least 1/35th the ball's AP).

• We should also discuss which calc should be used for their speed. NikHelton is the only accepted one I know of, but Darth, Timmy and Kulf-Boba all have their own calcs for this feat.

4. Update King's lifting strength

• King is quite powerful.

If it was the first constellation that was calculated to be 1.19x SoL, then shouldn't Flashy Flash also be that fast?

 

[Theendzero13]

Currently, the feat is valued at 1.19 times the speed of light via Nick Helton's calculation which has been accepted, however, there are other calculations in the works which may also be used. We're not going to implement the changes for at least another week, so any calculation that comes up and is accepted before then will be considered. Actually, y'know what lemme repost what'll be in the next CRT (to my knowledge).

I was talking about the first constellation, you know the one who was made by PE,Garou and FF

 

[Therefir]

Snip

Update your Evil Ocean Water calc, in the chapter we can see that it rises up relatively fast while Sage Centipede was making its speech. I'm fine with a 5 seconds timeframe.

Speed = 5667/5 = 1133.4 m/s

 

[Qawsedf234]

I was talking about the first constellation, you know the one who was made by PE,Garou and FF

Afaik the only calc currently about that is DarthSpiderr's which uses stuff like fan maps and anime maps to get a distance which isn't allowed

EDIT: Using the accepted version of Garou/PS though

• Scaled length: 80,046 / 74 * 2025 meters = 2,190,447.97 meters / 3 = 730,149.3243 meters crossed per person assuming all equally contributed
• Increased length (20%): 96,055.2 / 74 * 2025 meters = 2,628,537.567 meters / 3 = 876,179.1891 meters crossed per person assuming all equally contributed

Then just timeframes (Scaled End)

• 10 Seconds: 730,149.3243 / 10 = 73,014.93243 m/s or Mach 212.8715 (MHS)
• 5 Seconds: = 730,149.3243 / 5 = 146,029.86486 m/s or Mach 425.743 (MHS)
• 1 Second: = 730,149.3243 m/s or Mach 2128.715 (MHS+)
• 0.5 Seconds (Timeframe of AG's first stopwatch): = 730,149.3243 / 0.5 = 1,460,298.6486 m/s or mach 4257.43 (MHS+)

Time frames (Increased end)

• 10 Seconds: 876,179.1891 / 10 = 87,617.91891 m/s or Mach 255.4458 (MHS)
• 5 Seconds: = 876,179.1891 / 5 = 175,235.83782 m/s or Mach 510.891 (MHS)
• 1 Second: = 876,179.1891 m/s or Mach 2554.4582 (MHS+)
• 0.5 Seconds (Timeframe of AG's first stopwatch): = 876,179.1891 / 0.5 = 1,460,298.6486 m/s or Mach 5108.9165 (MHS+)

 

[Ourosboros]

Update your Evil Ocean Water calc, in the chapter we can see that it rises up relatively fast while Sage Centipede was making its speech. I'm fine with a 5 seconds timeframe.

Speed = 5667/5 = 1133.4 m/s

Okay, I have done so.