STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[AtomicSekiro]

Disaster levels are based off how much damage a monster can cause over time, and what available heroes they can be stopped by in that time.

An immobile slug which would bust the planet if it is affected in any way would be a God level threat.

A sub-relativistic sponge who can’t even damage normal human children would be Below Wolf, just really, really annoying.

 

[ByAsura]

@Timmy Not sure.

ENW's strength is a big unknown.

 

[Kin201]

That’s after he sucked on some more water. Initially Iaian was fighting pretty fairly against him. I believe his only problem was not being capable of putting him down completely since he’s… water?

Iaian was avoiding not getting one shot tbf. The three of them. Its jet streams have an incredibly penetrating power.

I mean ripping him in half.

I think it is his base feat, but let us see what others think.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Iaian was avoiding not getting one shot tbf. The three of them. Its jet streams have an incredibly penetrating power.

But he did end up being hit. It just scrapping his arm a couple times isn’t gonna render him immobile. Pretty sure his entire arm got pulverized and he wasn’t too concerned by it.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Are disaster levels even based on speed?

I thought they were based solely on destructive power.

I'm pretty sure it's a general thing.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It was almost two years ago. At that time I was a completely new user, and had no idea how the site works. So I made that change without a CRT. Now I think that BoS Genos should not scale to Post-Training Iaian in terms of speed.

Hypersonic BoS Genos downgrade let's go

 

[ByAsura]

I looked into it, and they're based on multiple factors, like difficulty of extermination and their destructive potential.

They can even lack certain factors like durability.

I don't see why being a Dragon level should mean that if a Demon level can lift a building, they have to be capable of the same feat in every circumstance.

It's entirely possible. But if it's not confirmed in the manga, we shouldn't go off speculation.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I looked into it, and they're based on multiple factors, like difficulty of extermination and their destructive potential.

They can even lack certain factors like durability.

I don't see why being a Dragon level should mean that if a Demon level can lift a building, they have to be capable of the same feat in every circumstance.

It's entirely possible. But if it's not confirmed in the manga, we shouldn't go off speculation.

If that's the case then I should point out we're gonna have to rewrite a lot of the scaling. Expect a lot of Unknown ratings probably

 

[Kin201]

But he did end up being hit. It just scrapping his arm a couple times isn’t gonna render him immobile. Pretty sure his entire arm got pulverized and he wasn’t too concerned by it.

He gets one shot if he is hit in the chest or so. Like with Tongara, who protected Bushidrill from the jets, implying that Bushidrill would have been killed. And Bushidrill is comparable to Iaian according to this site.

Hypersonic BoS Genos downgrade let's go

Well, if we can't find a reason for him to scale to Iaian, then rip the High Hypersonic I guess. Perhaps we can back scaling?

I looked into it, and they're based on multiple factors, like difficulty of extermination and their destructive potential.

They can even lack certain factors like durability.

I don't see why being a Dragon level should mean that if a Demon level can lift a building, they have to be capable of the same feat in every circumstance.

It's entirely possible. But if it's not confirmed in the manga, we shouldn't go off speculation.

I doubt that radish monster has Demon-level AP tbh. At least in the Monster Association, the rankings are decided by their destructive power only.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Well, if we can't find a reason for him to scale to Iaian, then rip the High Hypersonic I guess. Perhaps we can back scaling?

Why would we back scale?

 

[ByAsura]

I doubt that radish monster has Demon-level AP tbh. At least in the Monster Association, the rankings are decided by their destructive power only.

Still, we don't really have enough info to say their speed/lifting strength always has to be greater.

ENW, for example, stands in direct contradiction to some of these notions since he's physically just water.

 

[Kin201]

Why would we back scale?

Some scale to BoS Genos too. DSK and BoS Sonic could be downgraded if I'm not wrong.

Still, we don't really have enough info to say their speed/lifting strength always has to be greater.

ENW, for example, stands in direct contradiction to some of these notions since he's physically just water.

Sure, their AP is most likely greater is something I can agree with at least.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Some scale to BoS Genos too. DSK and BoS Sonic could be downgraded if I'm not wrong.

That doesn't really answer the backscaling thing

 

[Kin201]

That doesn't really answer the backscaling thing

I thought he could be back scaling from the version that fought DSK. But DSK scales to Genos since the rain feat is gone.

 

[Tural2004]

Well, if we can't find a reason for him to scale to Iaian, then rip the High Hypersonic I guess

I thought we scale Genos to Iaian because Amai Mask seemingly allowed Genos to be S-class while he didn't do that to Iaian

 

[Kin201]

I thought we scale Genos to Iaian because Amai Mask seemingly allowed Genos to be S-class while he didn't do that to Iaian

It is Iaian after his training, so he should be faster. If this is acceptable, then we should do something with the current justification. Perhaps a possible rating? Given that Sweet Mask recognised Genos probably because of his justice and because he is strong too, but not necessarily speed.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I thought we scale Genos to Iaian because Amai Mask seemingly allowed Genos to be S-class while he didn't do that to Iaian

I'm pretty sure Sweet Mask did that because of popularity and stuff. Also didn't the hero association have something to do with it also?

 

[Kin201]

I'm pretty sure Sweet Mask did that because of popularity and stuff. Also didn't the hero association have something to do with it also?

Yeah. This is likely why Sweet Mask allowed him to be S-Class.

 

[Qawsedf234]

@Qawsedf234 Can you explain this?

Depends on what you mean. Flash's name has multiple valid translations. But if you were keeping the pun/intention then you'd either using Flash-of-Light Flash or Shining Flash for a English translation.

If you mean the cover.... it's a cover. It's not useable for anything.

 

[Tural2004]

I'm pretty sure Sweet Mask did that because of popularity and stuff.

I don't think a lot of people knew about Genos before HA. Also, one of qualities Amai Mask wants in heroes besides beauty is power.

 

[Tural2004]

Also narratively there is a huge gap between S-class and lower class heroes besides a few certain expections. Even Iaian himself ackwnoledges the huge difference between S-class and himself.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Isn't he repeatedly stated to be worthy of S Class?

 

[ByAsura]

So are the top 7 A-Class, but they're not really comparable to the actual S-Classes.

 

[Kin201]

Iaian is weaker, but that doesn't necessarily mean he has to be slower.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So are the top 7 A-Class, but they're not really comparable to the actual S-Classes.

Really? I thought it was only the disciples and Amai Mask

 

[Tural2004]

Isn't he repeatedly stated to be worthy of S Class?

His own statements seem to be far more trustworthy to me. Also HA seemingly tends to underestimate S-class

 

[Kin201]

Iaian blitzes Pig God. What are Pig God's speed feats? Can anyone remind me?

 

[ByAsura]

Really? I thought it was only the disciples and Amai Mask

It's stated their combat ability is on S-Class level.

This makes sense because even Stinger has harmed Demon levels.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The Flashy Flash FTL statement is a mistranslation

Oh, that's not the statement at issue. The FTL / In the nick of time thing comes from the Hero Perfection guide not from a manga cover. It also uses different kanji.

 

[ByAsura]

Ok.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Iaian blitzes Pig God. What are Pig God's speed feats? Can anyone remind me?

Pig God saved Iaian before the base could collapse.
He also saved Tanktop Master from Gums as he was coming out of the ground.

 

[Tural2004]

If Amai Mask thing and S-class scaling get rejected the next best thing is scaling Genos to Iaian by hero ratings. Genos' burst speed is rated higher

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Iaian scales to ENW.

 

[Kin201]

Pig God saved Iaian before the base could collapse.
He also saved Tanktop Master from Gums as he was coming out of the ground.

We have no idea how fast he was with the first feat. As for the second, Tanktop Master was caught off guard I guess.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Pig god reacted to gums

 

[Tetsucabrah]

They were in different parts of the base. He had to be faster to save him.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Also is it even possible to calc the sperm tsunami? lol
GPE or KE?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Also is it even possible to calc the sperm tsunami? lol
GPE or KE?

No, because it’s not one big object, it’s just a lotta minions running. That’s like saying calc the KE of all those people in Travis concert-

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Didn't think so, was just curious.
Also that's ****** up...

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Do we have a profile for Niichirin