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Yo seeing as how we've established that tats can probably boost her physicality through the esper skill "protection", the next question is how much does it actually increase durability?

Is estimating how much force was applied on tatsumaki's arm from applying the "full" breadth of her psychic might unto saitama a viable method?
Thats how force works right? Is my physics okay here?
 
Saying the shockwaves (Even if they are that, Atomic's range is clearly beyond the reach of a normal sword) are weaker is pure headcanon and even if the slash partially cut GS forearm he still clashed and endured the attack, that is more than enough grounds for scaling. This isn't like DSK vs Snek where the latter survived but still got one shot.
There’s also the fact that Atomic sliced HE Energy Ball like paper, whereas GS’ arm was barely cut off at first
 
Couldn't HE seeing GS as a a threat be used to scale him to High 7-A?
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The best scaling is that gyoro thought sperm and Homeless emperor together could beat tatsumaki, meaning Platinum Sperm must be relative to homeless emperor
 
The best scaling is that gyoro thought sperm and Homeless emperor together could beat tatsumaki, meaning Platinum Sperm must be relative to homeless emperor
they are stronger than each other in they own ways
homeless has AP
and PS is faster
psykos probably considered this.
 
Then that would mean Golden Sperm alone should be high 7-A
and wow, wouldn’t you ******* know it, it’s almost like that’s the exact same scaling we had before.
 


The statement only makes Homeless Emperor and Black Sperm scale above Gyoro Gyoro who is Low 7-B

If Gyoro Gyoro had better feats (or Elder Centipede who Psykos believes Gyoro Gyoro would be able to beat) then it would be useful, but that isn't the case.
 
Besides the statement is straight up wrong, from what we know about Tatsumaki she would just TK crush the trillions of Black Sperm and erase Homeless Emperor with a thought lol
 
the statement being wrong isn’t really relevant anyways, since even if she constantly underestimated the power of the heroes, she should know how powerful golden sperm and homeless emperor are, so saying something like this would mean they’re comparable to each other
either way, atomic samurai was able to completely obliterated a high 7-A attack, and then Golden Sperm was able to partially block an attack from him, so it’s kinda bs that we’re just tossing that out because he was able to cut off the same arm that he had already damaged to begin with
 
the statement being wrong isn’t really relevant anyways, since even if she constantly underestimated the power of the heroes, she should know how powerful golden sperm and homeless emperor are, so saying something like this would mean they’re comparable to each other
She doesn't know about Golden Sperm or Platinum Sperm or that even Black Sperm can merge so the statement is useless
either way, atomic samurai was able to completely obliterated a high 7-A attack, and then Golden Sperm was able to partially block an attack from him, so it’s kinda bs that we’re just tossing that out because he was able to cut off the same arm that he had already damaged to begin with
Agree
 
Each rating is given through a direct evaluation of their power, and black sperm is a cadre anyways.
Yeah and? That just tells me that Black Sperm cells when in sufficient number have Dragon level strength. It's not proof that Psykos knows about GS and PS or them being able to merge.
 
The best scaling is that gyoro thought sperm and Homeless emperor together could beat tatsumaki, meaning Platinum Sperm must be relative to homeless emperor
Uh doesn't gyoro gyoro at that point in time didn't know tatsumaki's full power? Pretty sure before fighting psykorochi, all everyone saw of tatsumaki's capabilities was her just flicking a wrist then her target being gibbed
 
Uh doesn't gyoro gyoro at that point in time didn't know tatsumaki's full power? Pretty sure before fighting psykorochi, all everyone saw of tatsumaki's capabilities was her just flicking a wrist her target gibbed
The scaling chain from Psykos POV at that point goes like this:

Serum Psykos>Casual Tatsumaki>>>>>FP Gyoro Gyoro>>Gyoro Gyoro>Elder Centipede

Mind you that before Tatsumaki obliterating Gyoro Psykos thought it was like this:
Serum Psykos>>>>>FP Gyoro Gyoro>Gyoro Gyoro>Tatsumaki>Elder Centipede
 
The scaling chain from Psykos POV at that point goes like this:

Serum Psykos>Casual Tatsumaki>>>>>FP Gyoro Gyoro>>Gyoro Gyoro>Elder Centipede

Mind you that before Tatsumaki obliterating Gyoro Psykos thought it was like this:
Serum Psykos>>>>>FP Gyoro Gyoro>Gyoro Gyoro>Tatsumaki>Elder Centipede
Sorry but I'm really sleep deprived and this looks comprehensive af but I shit you not I dont see the significance.... like what does it have to do with my reply on ziller's scaling?

Can you please explain for the less numbered brain cell recepients? XD
 
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The scaling chain from Psykos POV at that point goes like this:

Serum Psykos>Casual Tatsumaki>>>>>FP Gyoro Gyoro>>Gyoro Gyoro>Elder Centipede

Mind you that before Tatsumaki obliterating Gyoro Psykos thought it was like this:
Serum Psykos>>>>>FP Gyoro Gyoro>Gyoro Gyoro>Tatsumaki>Elder Centipede
Or are you just informing me in general because if you are, thanku
 
every 2 seconds, the entirety is opm scaling falls into ruins
We’ve gone from 7-B to low 7-B, and 6-B and then 6-C and then at least low 7-B possibly high 7-A pretty soon we’ll be at least 7-A and then probably back to high 7-A again
It’s like every rating we have is wrong and it’s only a matter of time before it gets changed again.
 
OPM is that one verse where i'm pretty sure absolutely no calc or scaling no matter how high or low is ever safe from being changed just because
 
one day we should just be like “at least low 7-B, possibly 7-B, possibly high 7-A, possibly far higher” on every profile so every possible option is covered and we will never have to make a crt ever again
 
Saying the shockwaves (Even if they are that, Atomic's range is clearly beyond the reach of a normal sword) are weaker is pure headcanon and even if the slash partially cut GS forearm he still clashed and endured the attack, that is more than enough grounds for scaling. This isn't like DSK vs Snek where the latter survived but still got one shot.
What do you mean headcanon? Shockwaves are quite literally weaker than the initial attack, lol. His sword’s shockwaves are much weaker this is demonstrated on panel. PS couldn’t tank the sword despite tanking the shockwaves. They’re weaker.

He never clashed with the attack, he got hit by it and it cut through his arm. This is the equivalent of saying TTM scales FU because he could “endure” and clash against his forearm punch which obliterated his arms.
 
He never clashed with the attack, he got hit by it and it cut through his arm. This is the equivalent of saying TTM scales FU because he could “endure” and clash against his forearm punch which obliterated his arms.
It failed to cut clean through him, it was partially stopped by his arm so it doesn’t even exactly mean anything if it was cut off after being struck again in the same spot which was damaged already.
also, his arm still held up better than the high 7-A sphere that got obliterated in the first place, so golden sperm should still be high 7-A
 
one day we should just be like “at least low 7-B, possibly 7-B, possibly high 7-A, possibly far higher” on every profile so every possible option is covered and we will never have to make a crt ever again
The OPM calc life cycle:
New feat comes out>100 different people try calcing it>most highballed method is chosen due to hype>someone recalcs it to be massively lower, and it's accepted> someone gets angry it's too low and convinces people to try more highballed assumptions or a new method > less than 3 days later someone makes a CG thread downgrading/debunking the method > calc goes back to previous more lowballed value > someone makes a thread debunking it and giving it a new alternative that may be higher or lower > repeat last 2 ad infinum until someone finds a new method, a new, bigger feat comes out or the calc gets discarded entirely.
 
What do you mean headcanon? Shockwaves are quite literally weaker than the initial attack, lol. His sword’s shockwaves are much weaker this is demonstrated on panel. PS couldn’t tank the sword despite tanking the shockwaves. They’re weaker.

He never clashed with the attack, he got hit by it and it cut through his arm. This is the equivalent of saying TTM scales FU because he could “endure” and clash against his forearm punch which obliterated his arms.
Are you literally comparing this:
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Which is clearly his body clashing and enduring the attack

To being brutalized and literally killed
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Are you trolling?
 
Additionally, blunt force is far less likely to make visible damage like that.
the amount of energy to cut someone’s arm off is gonna be less than it takes to blow it to bits cause of piercing damage, so the fact that golden sperm wasn’t initially sliced says a lot about his durability
 
Additionally, blunt force is far less likely to make visible damage like that.
the amount of energy to cut someone’s arm off is gonna be less than it takes to blow it to bits cause of piercing damage, so the fact that golden sperm wasn’t initially sliced says a lot about his durability
Me when I block a High 7-A attack with my forearm only being partially cut and withstanding several other slashes to my body but I don't scale because 🤷‍♂️
 
Me when I block a High 7-A attack with my forearm only being partially cut and withstanding several other slashes to my body but I don't scale because 🤷‍♂️
The vs wiki when I withstand being stabbed 18 billion times but I am still 10-C because 18 billion and 1 stabs was able to finally impale me
 
Yo seeing as how we've established that tats can probably boost her physicality through the esper skill "protection", the next question is how much does it actually increase durability?

Is estimating how much force was applied on tatsumaki's arm from applying the "full" breadth of her psychic might unto saitama a viable method?
Bump
 
Platinum sperm should just be high 7-A to begin with from homeless emperor and the sun blade
it is most certainly lowballing, or maybe downplay is the better word in this case
 
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