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"The outcome has been decided from the start" is literally just a fancy way of saying "He never had any way of winning to begin with". It doesnt pertain to Another Cosmology being passive or not.
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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki
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Yeah but if he doesn't get the chance to use it, well then it doesn't really matter then
Nah, it's for his Source in total, and he can think and act from it so it doesn't matter
Godsatoshi23
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Only passive ability of AC is it's power null. Other abilities needs to be activated/hit the opponents to work.
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Argosex is a thing now too so even speed unequal matches are getting hard stopped by this
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NEP1 & 3????
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when was info 2 accepted for dmc? because argosax has aspect 4
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Bruhhh
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(that was apparently an error, and was supposed to be type 2 instead lol)
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shouldn't wizard101 characters share a spot with gow and dmc because of their immeasurable speed
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Isn't the verse outdated?
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Did that thread get accepted?
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yes
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Anyway, yeah i guess, also, speed is unequalised?
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we assume speed is equalized and unequalized im pretty sure it has always been that way
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Maybe Void Mundus? She has passive history/info EE in her true form though.
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should i put chaos in this list then
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Don't, because we will have a chaotic list
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Very funny viet
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Currently? no one
Also at this point just add GoW Characters / DMC Characters
since argosax and chaos join the ranks
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Isn't GoW Info 2 just the same CM1 shit but with runes? That is effectively a nothingburger. History EE too I doubt would be affective against Acausal characters.
Tanin_iver
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You don't like the treatment of Info 2 here??
GoW Info 2 is literally the same Magic as it was before, only the application is changed because they can use Magic with runic alphabets.
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what is even arguing here? Someone talking about Info 2?
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isn't Void Mundus getting NEP 1 wank for Info anyway
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So you agree?
Tanin_iver
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No, that was a mislabel iirc. Someone wrote the wrong type.
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nah that one is staying, the void should predate all of that
did chaos get nonexistent erasure or something? Can chaos even interact with agrosex to begin with?
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Unless he's Type 2, yes. Of course, if he lacks all aspects + space-time/history then its incon.
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did chaos get nonexistent erasure or something?
Can chaos interact with other nonexistent stuff?
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By default, we assume they can interact with those of a similar nature as themselves (and she can control her own void after all). My point is that if there's some aspect of Argosax that exists but doesn't for Chaos, then that's getting erased. If not then it's Incon.
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We do? Thats new to me
I see. Well, what exactly is gonna do to argosax once that his info is erased? it's not like he can't exist as a paradoxical ass NEP (which is what he has)
In fact, how does that work? Are we about to have another one of these? Cuz I'm down to have a dumb ass debate over what happens
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Type 3 doesn't mean getting an aspect erased means your fine, it's more to do with how your existence behaves against others interacting with it.
Going by the page, if Argosax has no other aspect left after losing info then even if not dead he functionally can't act at all, unless he was Type 2.
Setting aside that I really don't want to have a 10 page spat lmfao, that match doesn't quite work like here, cause Kratos still had several aspects left even if he did get Info EEd. To my knowledge, Argo will have nothing left after losing info cause he's nonexistent in every other aspect.
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nah we are doing this
going by this logic of "erasing something else and they are completely dead" then what about characters that have all aspects? are they effectively dead in any versus match too? Chaos has all aspects right? does this mean Chaos is dead in this match?
also from the tons of threads and characters that are in the wiki, we definitely give stuff like nonexistent erasure for those that can erase nonexistent characters or places which chaos lacks
edit: I did some more research and from what I could the whole idea of "erasing existing aspects that the NEP character has" comes from the premise of "when are they actually dead?" and thus this was created as some stupid kind of weakness for NEP in general in order to "kill them", this being a wiki made weakness instead of a verse-to-verse thing. Honestly just adding nonexistent erasure to EE would have been the better option, dozens of profiles already have that as they kill, erase or destroy nonexistent characters.
My questions don't change much, why erasing something that wasn't relevant for X existence/nonexistence would render them unable to act? How does that prevent them from doing what they were doing if they are already not existent? And what happens with characters that have all aspects? Are they dead in any and all matches? According to DT not even NEP 2 is safe from this.
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No, simply predate reality doesn't mean you can includes things that not show in it, like info 2, this is NLF
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so does argosax/mundus get info 2 ee'd
maybe they have some weird passive ability that can make it incon
maybe they have some weird passive ability that can make it incon
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Depend on how Chaos EE work, idk about the verse so should ask Planck or KLOL, from what i could see in the justification, based on words alone it seems that everything return to Chaos after the World Pillar is destroyed, seems like conditioned EE from my perspective, but that is just me
Though Argosax definitely will get Info 2 haxed
Though Argosax definitely will get Info 2 haxed
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