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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
Like I said, it doesnt matter since it cant affect Graham and he would have no chance to use it against Abernyu before getting passively erased.
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From what I could gather just getting stabbed puts you into a fate in which you can't win so it would just fate hax anyone in the verse

Also isn't graham NEP only after getting erased?

Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
No mention of it being passive in the profile.
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fair enough
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
From what I could gather just getting stabbed puts you into a fate in which you can't win so it would just fate hax anyone in the verse
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Yeah but if he doesn't get the chance to use it, well then it doesn't really matter then
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Also isn't graham NEP only after getting erased?
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Nah, it's for his Source in total, and he can think and act from it so it doesn't matter
 
shouldn't wizard101 characters share a spot with gow and dmc because of their immeasurable speed
 
Kiana should prolly be removed cus H1C now. The key thats still low 1-C is getting nuked and even now its not that haxrd out so yh
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
nah that one is staying, the void should predate all of that


did chaos get nonexistent erasure or something? Can chaos even interact with agrosex to begin with?
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Unless he's Type 2, yes. Of course, if he lacks all aspects + space-time/history then its incon.
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
did chaos get nonexistent erasure or something?

Can chaos interact with other nonexistent stuff?
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By default, we assume they can interact with those of a similar nature as themselves (and she can control her own void after all). My point is that if there's some aspect of Argosax that exists but doesn't for Chaos, then that's getting erased. If not then it's Incon.
 
Planck69 said:
By default, we assume they can interact with those of a similar nature as themselves (and she can control her own void after all). My point is that if there's some aspect of Argosax that exists but doesn't for Chaos, then that's getting erased. If not then it's Incon.
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We do? Thats new to me

I see. Well, what exactly is gonna do to argosax once that his info is erased? it's not like he can't exist as a paradoxical ass NEP (which is what he has)

In fact, how does that work? Are we about to have another one of these? Cuz I'm down to have a dumb ass debate over what happens
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
We do? Thats new to me

I see. Well, what exactly is gonna do to argosax once that his info is erased? it's not like he can't exist as a paradoxical ass NEP (which is what he has)

In fact, how does that work? Are we about to have another one of these? Cuz I'm down to have a dumb ass debate over what happens
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Type 3 doesn't mean getting an aspect erased means your fine, it's more to do with how your existence behaves against others interacting with it.

Going by the page, if Argosax has no other aspect left after losing info then even if not dead he functionally can't act at all, unless he was Type 2.

Setting aside that I really don't want to have a 10 page spat lmfao, that match doesn't quite work like here, cause Kratos still had several aspects left even if he did get Info EEd. To my knowledge, Argo will have nothing left after losing info cause he's nonexistent in every other aspect.
 
Planck69 said:
Type 3 doesn't mean getting an aspect erased means your fine, it's more to do with how your existence behaves against others interacting with it.
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I don't think you understood, my question is, argosax already has nonexistence so how would erasing his information make it so that he can't act? would it make him double nonexistent? how can it incap if all the things needed for his existence are already gone?
Planck69 said:
Going by the page, if Argosax has no other aspect left after losing info then even if not dead he functionally can't act at all, unless he was Type 2.
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why exactly? how does that render him unable to take any action? or since we give NPI how does erasing his information prevent him from attacking chaos?
Planck69 said:
Setting aside that I really don't want to have a 10 page spat lmfao, that match doesn't quite work like here, cause Kratos still had several aspects left even if he did get Info EEd. To my knowledge, Argo will have nothing left after losing info cause he's nonexistent in every other aspect.
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nah we are doing this

going by this logic of "erasing something else and they are completely dead" then what about characters that have all aspects? are they effectively dead in any versus match too? Chaos has all aspects right? does this mean Chaos is dead in this match?

also from the tons of threads and characters that are in the wiki, we definitely give stuff like nonexistent erasure for those that can erase nonexistent characters or places which chaos lacks


edit: I did some more research and from what I could the whole idea of "erasing existing aspects that the NEP character has" comes from the premise of "when are they actually dead?" and thus this was created as some stupid kind of weakness for NEP in general in order to "kill them", this being a wiki made weakness instead of a verse-to-verse thing. Honestly just adding nonexistent erasure to EE would have been the better option, dozens of profiles already have that as they kill, erase or destroy nonexistent characters.

My questions don't change much, why erasing something that wasn't relevant for X existence/nonexistence would render them unable to act? How does that prevent them from doing what they were doing if they are already not existent? And what happens with characters that have all aspects? Are they dead in any and all matches? According to DT not even NEP 2 is safe from this.
 
so does argosax/mundus get info 2 ee'd 🗿

maybe they have some weird passive ability that can make it incon
 
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