Steve fights Izuku Midoriya

[Phoenks]

Yes but again what are the chances of him getting a potion of speed?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

If Steve's inventory is random could be possible get an inventory full of swords? Also are potions mid game or late game?

 

[Madotsuki24]

Midoriya's item holdage <<<<<<<<<<<< Steve's item holdage and it shouldn't just be game mechanics as well, since his lifting strength is at least Class 50 (Capable of easily lifting and swinging around whole meters cube of solid gold).

 

[Phoenks]

Potions are mid game I think. And the chance of it being full of swords are extremely unlikely.

 

[Madotsuki24]

And isn't it a canon part of Steve's character?

 

[Phoenks]

How is Lifting Strenght Relevant in this?

 

[Madotsuki24]

Yeah, it's not important right now, sorry...


There are 11 types of positive effect potions and 6 types of negative effect potions which varies on how strong or weak it is. If it's a Splash Potion version, then it will be useful no matter what, since he can either throw it on himself if it's a positive effect potion, or he can throw it on Midoriya if it's a negative effect potion. Also, can the luck potion help him in battle, since it's a form of probability manipulation? One time a 10-C character won against Thunder McQueen (it couldn't be added because the character got removed at the last second from VBW) due to having probability manipulation because they were so lucky that they couldn't die from him.

 

[Phoenks]

hmm we need to figure out how many total items there are in this scenario.

 

[Phoenks]

Btw i decided to disclude armor as items in his inventory and instead just give him random armor pieces equipped at the start of the match (discluding diamond as it is late game)

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

So how does that change things?

 

[Phoenks]

Dosn't change much just insures his durability is atleast Building Level.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Well, I made an mistake including the Elytra, which is end game, so that's out. Potions are allowed and there is a lot of them, so that will make how many useful items he will get in this inventory quite a lot higher! Can someone do the calculation for me? It's very late for me, so I'm not as awake right now...

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

So his dura is .77 tons? Since with full iron a creeper almost kills him

 

[Jinsye]

So his dura is .77 tons? Since with full iron a creeper almost kills him

Steve can no-sell the heat of the Nether, which is 0.67 tons or so.

 

[Phoenks]

Alright so I got a total of 310 items. 169 useless, 114 useful, and 27 food items.

Also 105 of the items are potions however 54 of them are useless in this fight.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Food items can be useful as well, if you count the Golden Ingot Golden Apple, but Idk about the rest...

 

[Phoenks]

The golden apples are counted as useful items ^^

And the spider eyes, rotten flesh, etc are counted as useless. As for the rest I just counted as food items.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Also, wait, would you be able to count the Enchanted Golden Apple? Since you can find them in dungeons and mineshafts IIrc!

 

[Phoenks]

Yes im counting the Enchanted Gapple. They are used in late game but can be found in mid-game

 

[Madotsuki24]

Oh, awesome! >¤ë< So what is the calculation of how many useful items he will get in his inventory? uwu

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Steve can no-sell the heat of the Nether, which is 0.67 tons or so.

Isn't that game mechanics that'd make wool 8C

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Yes im counting the Enchanted Gapple. They are used in late game but can be found in mid-game

If you include a late game item then what exactly is the difference in mid and late game?

 

[Phoenks]

I just said it isn't a late game item. It is mid-game but is used in late game.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

this is really looking like a stomp

 

[Phoenks]

Roughly 37% of the items are useful so that should transfer to his inventory which means 37% of items he gets will be useful on average and there is 37 item slots. So 14/37 of the items he gets on average will be useful to him.

 

[Phoenks]

It should also be noted that arrows are only useful items if Steve gets a bow which is a 0.31% chance.

 

[Phoenks]

Chance of Steve getting a Sword or Tool is 5%

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Where do you get these numbers?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Ok so with the conditions OP provided Deku's best win con in the best scenario for Steve (items: iron sword, shield, bow, arrow, enchanted gapple, splash potion of decay, poison, insta health, healing, strength, levitation, steak, normal gapple, trident) is to get close because majority of Steve's items are less effective in CQC and if Deku can avoid the potions and bow shots he can get close and win however this is under the assumption that Steve has only one of each item in his inventory

 

[Bob8999]

what about a totem of undying?

 

[Phoenks]

Im confusing myself on this but right now im getting the percentages by seeing what percent of the number of x is of 310. Swords and Tools account for around 5% of the 310 items.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

what about a totem of undying?

I think that's late game maybe

 

[Bob8999]

what about a totem of undying?

I think that's late game maybe

i think it would depend on the player, the map and luck, cause im pretty sure its possible to kill an evoker with iron armour and an iron sword, you´d just need to find a forest mansion.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

The amount of variability in this matchup makes it annoying

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The amount of variability in this matchup makes it annoying

True

 

[Madotsuki24]

The amount of variability in this matchup makes it annoying

As long as it's a good battle and not a stomp then it should be a good VS Debate! One of the characters may get a victory added on their page! >¤ë<

 

[Madotsuki24]

what about a totem of undying?

I think that's late game maybe

i think it would depend on the player, the map and luck, cause im pretty sure its possible to kill an evoker with iron armour and an iron sword, you´d just need to find a forest mansion.

Yes, you can kill an Evoker with just Iron Armour and an Iron Sword.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

is it win by KO or death?

 

[Madotsuki24]

Im confusing myself on this but right now im getting the percentages by seeing what percent of the number of x is of 310. Swords and Tools account for around 5% of the 310 items.

Are you still calculating it?

 

[Phoenks]

So for the 14 useful slots it would be 1/110x14 % chance of getting that kind of item on average. so the chance of getting any singular useful item is 0.12% . Out of the 14 useful items he gets on average 14% are tools/swords, 49% are potions, 31% are arrows, and the remanining 5% is things like lava or ender pearls. So that means on average he will get 3 weapons/tools , 7 potions, and 4 different kinds of arrows... with a chance of getting ender pearls, lava, etc.

3 food slots on average so 1/35x3 % chance of getting any specific food is 0.1%. 14% is useless food, 6% is the 2 gapples. and the remaining 80% is the normal and cooked/uncooked foods. So on average 2 normal foods and a chance of either getting another normal food, a gapple, or a useless food for the last slot.

And 20 not useful slots so 1/169x20 % chance of getting any specific not useful item is 0.13%. Im not going to go over these items cause they are all useless.

Ok so this is pretty good for steve I think.

I hope I did my math right but if I didn't feel free to correct it.