Sternritter Profiles Revision [Bleach]

[LordTracer]

It may be more than 5 times though, as his Bankai evolved after Renji found out its true name.

We can’t say for sure though, but we know it would at least be 5x.

As for Rukia, she may be downgraded to 6-B as a result of Byakuya and As Nodt's recent downgrades.

Although speaking of As Nodt, shouldn’t his Vollständig be able to upscale to 6-B, since his base is really high into Low 6-B+?

 

[Damage3245]

We can’t say for sure though, but we know it would at least be 5x.

Although speaking of As Nodt, shouldn’t his Vollständig be able to upscale to 6-B, since his base is really high into Low 6-B+?

I'm going to get to As Nodt as part of the revisions later.

 

[Tsotso]

We can’t say for sure though, but we know it would at least be 5x.

Yes, we can't. I just wanted to point that out.

Although speaking of As Nodt, shouldn’t his Vollständig be able to upscale to 6-B, since his base is really high into Low 6-B+?

I agree. Since a character needs to be in the upper half of a tier to have a + then base As Nodt should be at least 4 Teratons, which multiplied by 5 (as Vollständig is implied to be comparable to Bankai) ends up as 20 Teratons, which is Country level.

 

[Damage3245]

@Tsotso; we don't accept that multiplier for Vollstandig. Not on any Sternritter profile.

So that is not a topic for this thread.

 

[Tsotso]

@Tsotso; we don't accept that multiplier for Vollstandig. Not on any Sternritter profile.

OK, but why though. Wasn't it implied that Vollstandig was the Quincy's version of Bankai? Unless I misremember something, which is certainly possible.

So that is not a topic for this thread.

Alright, let's not get too much off-topic then.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

@Tsotso; we don't accept that multiplier for Vollstandig. Not on any Sternritter profile.

So that is not a topic for this thread.

as far as i am aware the multiplier thread was accepted, and on that thread vollstanding was a 5x, same with bankai, hollofication and ressurection

Edit: found it
2x multiplier: Post-2nd Resurrection Bankai Ichigo Shihakushou, Yammy Resurrección 2nd Form

5x multiplier: Gentei Kaijou, Bankai, Resurrección, Hollowfication, Vollständig, Hisagi's Shikai

10x multiplier: Buto Renjin, Yammy's Resurrección, Mask's Star Crest, Cero Oscuras, Segunda Etapa (Until Lanza gets calced)

Unknown multiplier: Kenpachi's eyepatch

 

[Damage3245]

I can apply the changes for Kensei, Mask, Renji, Rukia and Bazz-B later tonight.

I don't think any other profiles are affected by that.

Once that's done I'll update the OP and present my next topic.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

as far as i am aware the multiplier thread was accepted, and on that thread vollstanding was a 5x, same with bankai, hollofication and ressurection

Edit: found it
2x multiplier: Post-2nd Resurrection Bankai Ichigo Shihakushou, Yammy Resurrección 2nd Form

5x multiplier: Gentei Kaijou, Bankai, Resurrección, Hollowfication, Vollständig, Hisagi's Shikai

10x multiplier: Buto Renjin, Yammy's Resurrección, Mask's Star Crest, Cero Oscuras, Segunda Etapa (Until Lanza gets calced)

Unknown multiplier: Kenpachi's eyepatch

Are you sure this is right because iirc we don’t do a SE multiplier here?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Are you sure this is right because iirc we don’t do a SE multiplier here?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-multipliers.65021/

here is the thread

 

[LordTracer]

Are you sure this is right because iirc we don’t do a SE multiplier here?

We definitely don’t, and if we do, it isn’t reflected on Ulquiorra’s profile.

 

[LordTracer]

Actually in looking through the thread, 10x for Segunda Etapa seems to have been accepted, but the profiles don’t show that, so it might need a new thread.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well honky donky that is something we should do, albeit maybe save it till after this because that would also cause Espada 3+ to upscale, and I got to propose a new calc formula before I can use it.

 

[LordTracer]

Wait, why would it affect Harribel, Barragan and Starrk? They don’t scale to Segunda Etapa, they only scale to Ulquiorra’s R1 Resurrección.

Although yeah, this should definitely be saved until this thread is over.

 

[Ovy7]

Why I get the feeling that a thread involving the multipliers would raise Hell again, like the God Tiers and Speed CRTs?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Wait, why would it affect Harribel, Barragan and Starrk? They don’t scale to Segunda Etapa, they only scale to Ulquiorra’s R1 Resurrección.

Although yeah, this should definitely be saved until this thread is over.

Espada’s 3+ > Espada 4 but yeah there’ll be an Espada CRT like this Sternritter CRT later

 

[Damage3245]

Actually in looking through the thread, 10x for Segunda Etapa seems to have been accepted, but the profiles don’t show that, so it might need a new thread.

I don't see anywhere where that is accepted.

All Antvasima says is "IMade's analysis is probably fine" but that's not a strong acceptance nor does any other staff member seem to have accepted that.

 

[LordTracer]

Espada’s 3+ > Espada 4

Yeah, that only applies to normal Resurrección, not Segunda Etapa.

 

[Damage3245]

Yeah, that only applies to normal Resurrección, not Segunda Etapa.

Agreed. We accept that their base forms are superior to Ulquiorra's base form and their Resureccion is superior to Ulquiorra's Resureccion. Nothing more.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yeah, that only applies to normal Resurrección, not Segunda Etapa.

Says who? Not for this CRT tho peeps

 

[Tsotso]

I suggest to avoid derailing the thread because of how Ulquiorra compares to Espada 3+.

 

[Damage3245]

I suggest to avoid derailing the thread because of how Ulquiorra compares to Espada 3+.

Agreed.

I'll post an update here soon.

 

[Damage3245]

The profiles I mentioned have been updated. Rukia didn't actually need changing; she was already Large Country level.

The next topic is regarding the durability justifications of the Sternritter girls:

Candice:

Durability: Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo, took a Vollständig Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1, also stated by Liltotto that he can't stop them with a single Burner Finger)

Liltotto:

Durability: Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo, tanked a Vollständig Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1, stated by her that he can't stop them with a single Burner Finger, also took a The Power punch from Meninas), higher with Blut Vene

Giselle:

Durability: Country level (Withstood being thrown into a building by a non-serious Ichigo, took a Vollständig Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1, stated by Liltotto that he couldn't stop them with a single Burner Finger)

Meninas:

Durability: Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo, tanked a Vollständig Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1, also stated by Liltotto that he can't stop them with a single Burner Finger)

I think that the point of them survivng a Burner Finger 1 and being able to keep fighting should be moved to their stamina.

If look at the feat when it happened here and here, Bazz-B's Burner Finger pierces through them completely. They didn't tank his attack or withstand it. If he aimed for their heads, maybe they would have instantly died.

This is an endurance feat for them that they can get back up after being pierced through like this, but it is not a durability feat.

I don't think we need to change their ratings for now; just moving that justification is all that needs doing for this topic.

 

[Ovy7]

Seems fine.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What do you suggest for the new justifications?

 

[M11UTD]

Should just be similar to their AP since blut vene and all, also Candice survived a getsuga from Ichigo.

 

[Damage3245]

What do you suggest for the new justifications?

For now, we just keep it as the current justifications:

This for Liltotto:

Durability: Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo, also took a The Power punch from Meninas), higher with Blut Vene

This for the others:

Durability: Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo), higher with Blut Vene

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Oh just remove the Bazz part, sure that's fine I'll see if there's any scans that can help with the justifications.

 

[Tsotso]

Should just be similar to their AP since bult vene and all, also Candice survived a getsuga from Ichigo.

That Getsuga was really casual.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

That Getsuga was really casual.

^

 

[Damage3245]

To be honest I mostly want to leave the Sternritter girls alone until we can do a comprehensive breakdown of the novels feats as well.

This is just a moving around of justifications to the appropriate area for now.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Sounds good, I don't think anyone will have an issue with removing Bazz from the justification.

 

[LordTracer]

Seems like a pretty simple change.

 

[Cyberblader90]

for rukia being large country, is it via assuming she is relative to bankai renji?

 

[Tsotso]

Rukia was originally Large Country level via scaling to Shikai Renji. Unless for whatever reason it has been decided to scale her to Bankai Renji, shouldn't she be downgraded to Country level like he was?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

She should scale to whatever Vollstandig As Nodt is

 

[Tsotso]

She should scale to whatever Vollstandig As Nodt is

Damage3245 said that the 5x multiplier isn't used for Vollstandig for whatever reason so now As Nodt is stuck in this weird position in which he most likely is Country level in Vollstandig but due to the multiplier not being applied he's rated at At least Small Country level+.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Vollstandig will most certainly get an accepted multiplier, might just have to wait for that thread tho.

 

[Damage3245]

I can't think of a good reason for Rukia to be scaling to either Shikai Renji or Bankai Renji tbh.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Agree with ditching the Bazz part of the dura reasoning.

Doesn’t Rukia join the big Gotei vs Ritter scrap? Who did she fight?

 

[Cyberblader90]

all she does is this: