Why is Bambietta being assumed to be comparable to Bazz-B?
Actually I wondered about this myself when I saw her justification but forgot to bring up your question when making my proposals.
We're not using any multiplier value for Vollstandig currently, and I don't think you can backscale multipliers like that either. As Nodt should just be scaling to Large Island level like the others.
I mean, if he's only Large Island level (max 550 Gigatons) and his Vollstandig is Small Country level+ (at least 4 Teratons), then he would have gotten an at least 7.27x multiplier for going Vollstandig. The reason I proposed him to be at least Large Island level+ was because earlier in the thread you said this in response to something else I said:
Since a character needs to be in the upper half of a tier to have a + then base As Nodt should be at least 4 Teratons, which multiplied by 5 (as Vollständig is implied to be comparable to Bankai) ends up as 20 Teratons, which is Country level.
@Tsotso; we don't accept that multiplier for Vollstandig. Not on any Sternritter profile.
This implied to me that Vollstandig is considered a lower multiplier than Bankai's 5x. Unless I misinterpreted what you meant which is possible.
That isn't a statement explicitly for Attack Potency. Nobody has ever said that to "stand atop the Soul Reapers" means that your base form is superior to every other Soul Reaper at their maximum strength.
I think that statement is too vague to use; especially when trying to compare Ichibe to a specific character like Yama with his Bankai active.
The reason I think it could be used is because Yhwach wasn't aware of Ichibe's Shikai and Shin'uchi/Bankai at the time of the statement, therefore the only abilities of Ichibe's he was aware of were:
Yhwach can make that last ability mostly irrelevant by
returning his power to himself. Despite being able to do this, he still praises Ichibe as the one who stands atop the Soul Reapers
and makes a big deal out of Ichibe having to resort to cutting his power in half, bragging that he "must have feared his power". That statement is significant as it's not actually about Yhwach praising Ichibe's ability to cut the name/power of things in half (
which is mostly irrelevant against Yhwach). The implications of that statement are that Yhwach respects Ichibe's level of power, and is trying to brag about his own level of power being high by using Ichibe's level of power as a standard and making a comparison between them with the claim that Ichibe feared how strong Yhwach was. When Ichibe implies he has more abilities in his arsenal and could have done more than just cut his power in half,
Yhwach is surprised, meaning he wasn't anticipating that Ichibe would have more relevant abilities than the ones listed above which were displayed before the "atop the Shinigami" statement. And since all of those listed abilities besides the one which was rendered mostly irrelvant are all raw power based, that is the only thing Yhwach could have been impressed by going off process of elimination and
him trying to make himself out to be strong by comparing himself to Ichibe. And keep in mind that while all of that was happening, Yhwach had Yamamoto's Bankai in his pocket.
Yhwach can't have been praising Ichibe only because of Ichibe's position as the leader of the Zero Division. Yhwach doesn't seem to care about the Shinigami's hierarchy when it comes to who he respects.
He didn't have respect for Yamamoto during the TYBW arc despite him being the head of the Soul Reapers of the Gotei 13. In contrast,
Yhwach respected Yamamoto's old self due to his more ruthless nature. Despite them being the same individual holding the same position in both time periods, there is a big difference between Yhwach's respect for the old and young Yamamoto. This proves that Yhwach's respect is earned through qualities, not through position.
If you aren't convinced by this and still insist on Yhwach being rated as "At least X, likely Y", then that's fine too. I'd be ok with that and Arc seems to be ok with it too.
If Yhwach's accepted at Continent level+, his rating would look something like this:
Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Far stronger than
Gremmy Thoumeaux as he granted him his powers and imprisoned him. He is the only Quincy capable of handling the power of
Yamamoto's Bankai and should be comparable to it as Yhwach is most likely always making use of his maximum power as a Quincy due to never using a Quincy: Vollständig to accelerate the rate of his Reishi absorption, capable of fighting
Ichibē Hyōsube who Yhwach
considered the pinnacle of all Shinigami despite
having fought Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto two times,
having killed him the second time and
possessing his Bankai at the time of the statement about Ichibē)
If Yhwach's accepted at being at a lower tier with an "At least" and a "likely" for
Continent level+, then his rating would be like this:
Attack Potency: At least
Large Country level (Easily defeated
Tier Harribel single-handedly after she used her Resurrección, with Quilge Opie stating that
she was no match for him. Far stronger than
Gremmy Thoumeaux as he granted him his powers and imprisoned him. Easily defeated Yamamoto by
cutting him down after stealing his Bankai), likely
Continent level+ (He is the only Quincy capable of handling the power of
Yamamoto's Bankai and should be comparable to it as Yhwach is most likely always making use of his maximum power as a Quincy due to never using a Quincy: Vollständig to accelerate the rate of his Reishi absorption, capable of fighting
Ichibē Hyōsube who Yhwach
considered the pinnacle of all Shinigami despite
having fought Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto two times,
having killed him the second time and
possessing his Bankai at the time of the statement about Ichibē)
Yhwach is undoubtedly "At least
Large Country level" instead of "At least
Country level" due to the following:
From the CFYOW novel:
Gremmy Thoumeaux.
The name of a boy who is reputed to be the strongest Sternritter, in fact, it was said that in all likelihood, no one could hope to defeat him outside of Yhwach.
The above quote is representative of the beliefs of the other Sternritter, indicated by the words "reputed" and "said". Among those Sternritter who believe what was said is
Bazz-B, who is
Country level to
Large Country level in Vollständig.
Bazz-B is clearly not as powerful as Gremmy and feared his power like the other Sternritter, as
he was freaking out when he saw the meteor Gremmy made
with just one clone.
Gremmy is confirmed to be weaker than Yhwach due to the statement from CFYOW and Yhwach clearly stating he's
the only Quincy strong enough to handle Yamamoto's Bankai.
There is far too much narrative consistency between both the novel statement and the manga to deny Yhwach being stronger than Bazz-B and Gremmy, both of whom reach
Large Country level.
