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Sternritter Profiles Revision [Bleach]

If we’re gonna talk about post time skip Ichigo it might as well be in this thread. He’s included in the op
 
If I had to guess the issue with Fullbring Ichigo it’s that he scales to 6-B via Tsukishima, but Tsukishima is Low 6-B.

Which makes complete Fullbring Ichigo (the super sentai one lol) Low 6-B.

For Fullbring Shikai Ichigo, he was able to catch Quilge’s arrows and Quilge is 6-B for being comparable if nothing stronger than Bambi. So his reasoning can be changed to like “Stronger than before, caught and deflected Quilge’s Heilig Pfiel with his bare hands”. Then for Bankai nothing needs to change.
 
Makes sense to me, drop Complete Fullbring down to Low 6-B and reword Fullbring Shikai’s justification and everything is hunky dory.
 
So a question
from Jugram’s justification :
"Large Country level (Broke Fullbring Bankai Ichigo's Zanpakutō, fought Uryū Ishida), The Balance ignores conventional durability"

Uryu’s justification :
"Large Country level (Fought on par with Jugram, Quilge said that Uryu shouldn't be weaker than himself)"

shouldnt we edit this a bit? remove the "fought Uryū Ishida" part from Jugram’s because its sound like circular reasoning right? so something like that :

"Large Country level (Broke Fullbring Bankai Ichigo's Zanpakutō), The Balance ignores conventional durability"
and Ishida still as he is.
or remove it from Ishida’s justification and keep it in Jugram’s
If there is something wrong with that, feel free to correct me
 
Question, why is Post-Ayon Absorption Quilge a High 6-B?

Also Fullbring Arc Chad would need to go down to Low 6-B since he’s scaled to Fullbring Ichigo, his TYBW key would also need to be downgraded. Orihime’s 6-B keys are also scaled to Low 6-B characters.
 
Iirc Aton Quilge got a 2x+ AP amp for absorbing a creature stronger than him and he’s able to block FB Bankai Ichigo’s attacks.
 
he’s able to block FB Bankai Ichigo’s attacks.

Strictly speaking this seems like it would only boost his durability.
 
Yes, what Arc said, but Quilge couldn't use the Arterie because of Ichigo's superior speed forcing him to be always on the defense (he comments that he can't take Ichigo's hits without Vene).
 
I think we just need to update Jugram, Ichigo, Chad and Orihime. Working on them now.

Actually, wouldn't Quilge's Ayon-absorbed form just be "At least Country level"? That seems like the better option to me.
 
this pains me but, should rukia keep small country plus+? She beat Vollständig As Nodt with bankai, which we note negs durability

She scales to base as nodt, but i want opinions on vollstandig
 
I think we just need to update Jugram, Ichigo, Chad and Orihime. Working on them now.

Actually, wouldn't Quilge's Ayon-absorbed form just be "At least Country level"? That seems like the better option to me.
He’d technically be Country level+.
 
He could likely become Large Country in the future, as the 33 Teratones is from Post Rez Ichigo, but the current profile doesn't take into account that he was at half power.
 
Cause of his Bankai clothes. He gets "healed" to full power later by Unohana.
 
Oh that would make Ayon Quilge large country because we’d be missing another factor of 2
 
Is it ever stated that his regained Shinigami powers is superior to himself with Hollowfication?
 
Currently we accept that his Fullbring “surpassing his prior powers” refers to his Hollow Bankai form.

This is backed up by Complete Fullbring Ichigo speed blitzing Tsukishima who scales to a post timeskip Byakuya who trained, and in the past that Byakuya could harm the strongest Espada.

Res Yammy was relative to a half power striped Mask Ichigo, Angry Res Yammy gets a two times power amp, and Byakuya can fight that Yammy. So it referring to surpassing Striped Mask Ichigo is most consistent.
 
I get that it may be backed up by other scaling, but is it backed up by statements within the manga itself?

Tsukishima I consider to be a less than ideal basis for this seeing as he can go from being blitzed by Fullbring Ichigo to blitzing Fullbring Ichigo.
 
I get that it may be backed up by other scaling, but is it backed up by statements within the manga itself?

Tsukishima I consider to be a less than ideal basis for this seeing as he can go from being blitzed by Fullbring Ichigo to blitzing Fullbring Ichigo.
It’s stated multiple times that he’s regaining a power superior to what he once had.

If we took that 100% literal then Fullbring Ichigo > Dangai Ichigo, but obviously that’s contradicted later on and makes no sense. Thus we scrutinize.

Complete Fullbring Ichigo can clash with Tsukishima and even lop his arm off when enraged. Even an Incomplete Fullbring Ichigo was able to somewhat clash with Tsukishima.

Tsukishima can clash with, and push the limits of a post-TS Byakuya.

Byakuya being stated to have spent loads of time training during that timeskip, making him stronger than his AA self. His AA self being able to damage Angry Res Yammy on screen and defeat him off screen with Kenpachi.

Angry Res Yammy is twice as strong as Res Yammy, Res Yammy being able to tank a Striped Mask Ichigo’s Getsuga with only a knick to the neck.

So Complete Fullbring Ichigo can fight on par if not above the level of characters who are relative to his Striped Mask self. It becomes quite obvious what they meant by when they told Ichigo he’d regain power above what he once weld refers to his peak pre-Dangai aka Striped Mask.

I’d say “regaining power beyond what you once had” statements perfectly back it up. Also, regarding Tsukishima being “less than ideal” you have to remember that Ichigo can severely nerf himself based on his emotional state or vice versa. Insert his first fight with Yammy to see what I mean.
 
If you’re asking “does Kubo say ‘Complete Fullbring Ichigo is stronger than Striped Mask Hollow Bankai Ichigo from the last arc’?”

No the way Kubo writes requires you to use knowledge of prior events and context from the scene to inform the events and statements. He’s often indirect and practices show don’t tell.
 
Does Tsukishima also states that Comp. Fullbring Ichigo's Getsuga is as strong/stronger than he was before losing his powers? Backing this up is also Ginjo confusing Fullbring Shikai Ichigo's sword pressure as his Getsuga (which he also said is stronger than before losing his powers IIRC).
 
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