Epyriel
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I imagine it wouldn’t affect anyone asides the Mortis Gods and Abeloth. After all, it is not like every random Padawan is controlling or effecting the entirety of the Force.
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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi
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Abu2411
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I have no idea. And Tier 0 hax can't be a thing without some specific circumstances iirc. Ask Ultima about it.
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What about mortis Anakin? After all, he defeated the gods of mortis and Luke defeated Abeloth.
Epyriel
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Yeah Mortis amped Anakin would also scale. Luke however would not (he only defeated a massively weakened Abeloth with a huge amount of assistance).
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As far as I remember, it was written in Luke's profile that he damaged Abeloth with power blasts, what kind of help was this with?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Isn't it outright stated that Abeloth was a dozen times stronger than Luke?
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Yeah, but he still did damage.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Yeah, a cracked out of his mind super amped version of him that would have lost if any single thing went differently.
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Can't a key at least be added for that battle
Epyriel
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Yeah but that is a super weakened version of Abeloth (who doesn’t scale anywhere near her prime, this error on the profiles of scaling Luke and Krayt off of her prime is getting fix in the next revision).
In the first several battles he fights her with a large army at his side working collectively to weaken her, and in the final battle Krayt Force drains her to weaken her while other characters weaken her by fighting her other Avatars on other planets while also benefiting from the fact that Abeloth is vulnerable when Beyond Shadows.
Basically:
Pre-Imprisonment Abeloth >>>>> FOTJ Abeloth > FOTJ Luke
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nobody here is saying luke>abeloth, only that abeloth can be damaged by power blasts, I hope we can agree that abeloth's avatar bodies are already very flimsy, and that luke's extra strengthening during the battle made no difference, he was already extra strengthened during anakinde mortis.
Epyriel
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Right, but none of that matters for the sake of scaling Luke to Abeloth’s prime because FOTJ Abeloth is nowhere near the same tier as Prime Abeloth.
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But isn't Abeloth already scaled from Beyond Shadows? Luke is the same way.
Epyriel
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Abeloth is currently scaled on the assumption that Prime Abeloth ~ Beyond Shadows Abeloth ~ Luke ~ Krayt which is incorrect and currently planned to be fixed in the next revision.
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I think it should be mentioned in their profile that they are powered by an extra connection beyond the shadow, because in the same way Anakin is powered by the planet mortis.
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In canon, what level is Luke's strength?
I'm not watching anything from SW these days (because it's shit)
I'm not watching anything from SW these days (because it's shit)
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Considering Supernatural Encounters as Legends content is nonsense
TegamiBachi25
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Yeah, I think we should remove Supernatural Encounters, but it can be included as a FC/OC profile for Nakhash and Father of Lights since I'm certain the staff there will be fine with it. I still think the Force should scale around Tier 1 (even if the tier 0 stuff doesn't stick) since there's still enough evidence for it without Supernatural Encounters
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TegamiBachi25
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Canon Force Wielders are apparently going to scale around 7-C or higher(?)
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What are Force's anti feats
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I'm talking more about the scale within the verse, where Luke would find himself in strength.
Top tier, god tier, what position, etc.
TegamiBachi25
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Luke would be the strongest force wielder in Canon if you don't count ROS Palpatine. So yeah, top tier. The god tiers would only be Mortis gods
