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Similar to Underwater Breathing and similar powers, we distinguish different kinds of stamina but extend the levels in the Marvel list.
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Stamina: A veritable clustertruck
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Stamina isn't a power, it's a statistic. How would we extend them? How would we use them when different levels of stamina are present in different areas? Do we need three different ranking systems?
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Yeah, but mine's better, because it's made by me
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I spoke with Crab briefly about this earlier. I feel neutral about it. Our stamina page admittedly isn't structured well but I think it would become complicated to flesh it out for relatively new benefit. I generally agree with Armor's first post, as well- at some point it becomes counter productive to try to elaborate further as the stat itself requires interpretation. This is about all I have to contribute to the conversation.
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We could extend it to more than the levels we have in that page, and differentiating the kind of endurance needed to run or be active in a long time and the kind of endurance to resist serious injuries and whatnot.
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fair point, carry onYeah, but mine's better, because it's made by me
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I think that Promestein's draft for a new Stamina page seems good. Thank you very much for helping out. It is very appreciated. The text may need some minor tweaks for more formal/academic language though.
As for our Intelligence page. I really like and definitely want to keep our current system, as it creates a logical hierarchy depending on the extent of what a character can achieve via logical though. For example, warping reality in a wide variety of manners at a cosmic scale via sheer intelligence rates higher than merely making calculations at a pace comparable to real world supercomputers, and we also make a distinction between scientific skills and common sense when necessary. Although from what I recall, I was the one who mostly came up with and wrote the different tiers and definitions for the page.
Of course, with the recent introduction of quantum supercomputers, we may eventually be able to hack the math for redefining reality itself in a very advanced science fiction manner, which is also far more impressive than what we have traditionally grown accustomed to for this civilisation.
As for our Intelligence page. I really like and definitely want to keep our current system, as it creates a logical hierarchy depending on the extent of what a character can achieve via logical though. For example, warping reality in a wide variety of manners at a cosmic scale via sheer intelligence rates higher than merely making calculations at a pace comparable to real world supercomputers, and we also make a distinction between scientific skills and common sense when necessary. Although from what I recall, I was the one who mostly came up with and wrote the different tiers and definitions for the page.
Of course, with the recent introduction of quantum supercomputers, we may eventually be able to hack the math for redefining reality itself in a very advanced science fiction manner, which is also far more impressive than what we have traditionally grown accustomed to for this civilisation.
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Staff only thread, please don't post unless you have something important to say.
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Also this looks good.
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Is somebody who is good with word flow willing to take a look at and improve a bit on Promestein's draft text so the language turns strictly formal/academical? If not, I can try to handle it later.
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This is why we need simple categories, putting every extreme stamina feat under "Superhuman" still majorly leaves it up to justifications
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I can add some basic simple categories if people would prefer that.
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Yeah, pretty much this, standardize a few simple categories and then add justifications
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A basic template isn't anything that NEEDS to be upheld, just a sort of guideline with minimal room for people to **** things up.
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Far too ambiguous and easy to miscontrue.
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Perhaps do you prefer to stick to Below Human, Human, Peak Human, Superhuman and Supernatural instead?
As for the draft, maybe a note about not being as hindered by hunger, thirst and lack of sleep, currently the page sounds it only refer to fatigue in general. Also, does enduring harsh weather during extend periods of time counts? I believe it should, but people more than often count it as resistance to heat/cold/atmosphere.
As for the draft, maybe a note about not being as hindered by hunger, thirst and lack of sleep, currently the page sounds it only refer to fatigue in general. Also, does enduring harsh weather during extend periods of time counts? I believe it should, but people more than often count it as resistance to heat/cold/atmosphere.
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Below Human -> Average -> Peak Human -> Superhuman -> Supernatural -> Inexhaustible is what I'd prefer.
Yeah to both. I can add them later.
Yeah to both. I can add them later.
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I think Infinite is better than Inexhaustible because it's currently used. And I disagree with Supernatural, I think once stamina reaches superhuman levels gauging it objectively is impossible.
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So Below Average -> Average -> Peak Human -> Superhuman -> Inexhaustible would be okay?
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Sensible for Supernatural.
My concern with Infinite is that it's easier for people to miscontrue it, with the various types of Stamina we're accounting for here. Inexhaustible is more explicitly about their ability to continue exerting energy
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I mean, we already have notes on the profile that explain how it works, if people wanna wank then people gonna (try to) wank. I think Infinite is better cause if we use "Inexhaustible" all of our profiles with "Infinite" are obsolete
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That's true.
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I believe Inexhaustible/Infinite is the same as Limitless, right?
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Yes.
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I was actually thinking of something like this:
Below Average Human > Average Human > Above Average Human > Athletic Human > Peak Human > Enhanced > Superhuman/Supernatural > Nigh-Absolute > Absolute
Below Average Human > Average Human > Above Average Human > Athletic Human > Peak Human > Enhanced > Superhuman/Supernatural > Nigh-Absolute > Absolute
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Well geez, sorry; just wanted to give my opinion.
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Any opinions on this update?
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It looks good and straightforward.
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Seems fine.
Maybe one could add a little mention to the energy exertions mentioning how besides timeframe also other factors like, for example, how hard the exercise/fight is for the character can play a role for the ranking.
One could potentially also mention mental exhaustion, as one of the few limiting factors of infinite stamina. Then again, there are probably more unnamed variables than that, so one could also not do so.
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Updated again with DT's suggestions.
Just for the record I think most feats currently listed as "Resistance to Pain Manipulation" or anything like that should be saddled under Stamina. You're not resisting pain manipulation if you power through it, you just have a good pain tolerance. Pain manipulation resistance is resisting the ability that causes the pain and not feeling the pain to power through.
Just for the record I think most feats currently listed as "Resistance to Pain Manipulation" or anything like that should be saddled under Stamina. You're not resisting pain manipulation if you power through it, you just have a good pain tolerance. Pain manipulation resistance is resisting the ability that causes the pain and not feeling the pain to power through.
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It looks really good to me. Thank you very much for helping out.
I tried to improve a bit on the language flow:
Promestein/Stamina
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This is actually perfect, it allows us to have a standardized Stamina, but still leaves most of it up to justifications of staminaIt looks really good to me. Thank you very much for helping out.
I tried to improve a bit on the language flow:
Promestein/Stamina
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