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[STAFF NEEDED] Saint Seiya: Gold Saint Downgrade and Profile Split

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This will be quick as I want to get this done with some haste (pun intended).

Saint Seiya canon underwent some changes, wherein the timelines were split up. So we cannot cross-scale Gold Saint attack potency anymore.

The current profiles use scaling that comes from G and some novels, I intend to replace the current scaling with Classic-only scaling for now.

Admittedly, this is a bit of a rush job, but the current profiles actually give me headaches.

I won't be changing the scaling chains too much in this CRT, just the ratings. A more in-depth and detailed scaling chain will be done at a later date, but the profiles need to be updated more in line with the current canon.

Current Justifications:

The current justifications basically scale all 7th Sense users to Saga's minimum (3-C) and uni via the Big Bang using a combination of scans from Episode G and the Giga light novel.

Proposed Justification

For the time being, I am proposing we replace the 7th Sense justifications with:

4-C (Gold Saints can shatter stars), at most 4-A (Downscaling from Gemini Saga whose Galaxian Explosion can destroy the stars and planets of the Milky Way)

Gemini Saga and Gemini Kanon will be straight-up 4-A. Shaka will get the same rating as everyone for the time being, a more in-depth scaling chain will be implemented in the future, for now, my main goal is to implement some old CRTs and remove the G continuity scaling off of the profiles.

Some removals:

In line with the timeline split, with the AP justifications no longer having G scaling, there's no longer any reason to have G images or techniques on the pages so:

I propose removing Aiolia's lightning fang and Photon Burst as well as his G profile picture.

And changing multi-stellar lifting strength (which comes from G) to unknown. This will affect all human profiles who currently scale to multi-stellar lifting strength.

Here are some sandboxes, if anyone notices any G content that can be removed as a consequence of this CRT, please let me know so I remember to remove them.


Further removals and changes:
Range will be changed from "galactic" to "possibly stellar" to be more in line with the proposed AP justifications of being able to "shatter stars".

Gemini Saga's range will be changed to "galactic with galaxian explosion, interdimesnsionalvia another dimension"

The following will also be removed from the profiles:
  • G ages can be removed
  • Saga's gallery needs to remove all the G images
  • G images will be removed from Aldebaran's profile
  • G images will be removed from Aiolos' profile

Agree: @Hasty12345, @Cindrallig7, @AlexZiggy, @TheUnshakableOne, @Huesito88, @LuffyRuffy46307, @TurtleGod55, @Compsito, @StekFence, @Ryzen7900X. @Voidnether, @LordGriffin1000, @Planck69

Disagree:
 
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I agree, however, more than the lifting strength needs to be changed.

  • G ages can be removed
  • Range needs to be changed accordingly
  • Saga's gallery needs to remove all the G images
  • G images need to be removed from Aldebaran's profile
  • G images need to be removed from Aiolos' profile

I think the range can just be changed to stellar in 99% of cases or at least "possibly stellar" if they can shatter stars. Saga's universal range and galactic range are probably ok but it should probably be interdimensional with another dimension.

Copy and paste this list in the removals section of the post.
 
I agree, however, more than the lifting strength needs to be changed.

  • G ages can be removed
  • Range needs to be changed accordingly
  • Saga's gallery needs to remove all the G images
  • G images need to be removed from Aldebaran's profile
  • G images need to be removed from Aiolos' profile

I think the range can just be changed to stellar in 99% of cases or at least "possibly stellar" if they can shatter stars. Saga's universal range and galactic range are probably ok but it should probably be interdimensional with another dimension.

Copy and paste this list in the removals section of the post.
done and thank you
 
Agree. Now that Gold Saint feats no longer cross scale between timelines there's really no avoiding it. Classic Golds just don't measure up
 
I'm happy to apply this when/if it's accepted btw, I did promise myself to fix the profiles but ND's ending was a real demotivator.
 
no problems here. So if I'm getting this right the average gold saint should be 4-C right? will these changes also be applied to bronze saints or will there be a separate thread for it?
 
no problems here. So if I'm getting this right the average gold saint should be 4-C right? will these changes also be applied to bronze saints or will there be a separate thread for it?
For now, this will apply to everyone who scales to 7th Sense Golds (so just about every profile).

The Bronze boys obviously aren't in that state 99% of the time except for like Ikki who's just built different I guess. They will eventually get more in-depth sections that splits their non-7th Sense and 7th Sense stats.

For now, my only goal is removing the non-classic scaling from the profiles.
 
And Athena's exclamation? It is said to be the power of the Big Bang concentrated in a single point
 
The AE requires 3 Gold Saints working in tandem, nothing suggests it scales to each individually, especially when they get hurt by a lot less in Classic.
But the characters when they burned their cosmos to the maximum didn't survive the exclamation? Like Shiryu and other golds
 
But the characters when they burned their cosmos to the maximum didn't survive the exclamation? Like Shiryu and other golds
They weren't hit with the full might of the technique. In the same arc Milo (who was one of the Golds performing one of the AEs) was nearly killed by Saga's GE and only survived because of Mu warning him about it.
 
If staff are interested in knowing what the profiles will look like, I've started to edit the sandbox (linked in the OP). The sandbox included accepted edits from previous CRTs that haven't been applied yet.
 
If staff are interested in knowing what the profiles will look like, I've started to edit the sandbox (linked in the OP). The sandbox included accepted edits from previous CRTs that haven't been applied yet.
Thank you for your help, I thought you were quitting the verse so I took your sandbox from the discussion thread and was going to use it as the basis for my edits.

But if you're going to edit the sandbox, I'll leave you to it?
 
Thank you for your help, I thought you were quitting the verse so I took your sandbox from the discussion thread and was going to use it as the basis for my edits.

But if you're going to edit the sandbox, I'll leave you to it?
I would like to live up to my word and do what I said I was going to do, so I'm more than happy to just handle the edits.

It's not like you can edit my sandbox, so I can have the edits done before the CRT is accepted and ready to be applied.
 
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