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Springfield upgrades n stuff

Okay, ask some staff members if it's acceptable. If it's an explosion, then Wiggum should scale to half the yield only if he was caught at point blank by the explosion.

If it happened that way, it should be acceptable.
 
He was hit By the thing that exploded. The explosion just happen to also destroy the vehicle. Like what happen was a tank shell hit Wiggum directly and it blew up and destroyed the vehicle too. But alright, I'll go ask a staff member.
 
Buttersamuri said:
That's my bad. I got those two words mixed up. High-Low
Wait shouldn't it really actually be Low-Mid for the getting your Heart ripped out part?:

Low-Mid: The ability to regenerate lost limbs, and even from severe organ damage or destruction, including traditionally fatal wounds and disembowelment or horizontal bisection. For machines and vehicles, this would be regenerating minor parts and more extensive internal damage.

Homer did get disembowelled right?

Also I remember you saying:

"The having his heart taken out requires the healing for the cords and nerves connected to his body to reattach and heal. Another justification for Mid to High Low.

And if the man did it by ripping homers heart out. That's High Low to Low mid Regen."
 
Ripping out his heart would both rip off several vital cords that attack the heart to the body and pumps blood through the body.

And it leaves a hole in his chest. So High Low is better. He isn't healing entire limbs. Just cords to his body. Unless I'm wrong. But seems like it's High Low to me
 
Buttersamuri said:
Ripping out his heart would both rip off several vital cords that attack the heart to the body and pumps blood through the body.

And it leaves a hole in his chest. So High Low is better. He isn't healing entire limbs. Just cords to his body. Unless I'm wrong. But seems like it's High Low to me

Oh okay that kind of makes more sense.
 
The Calaca said:
Okay, ask some staff members if it's acceptable. If it's an explosion, then Wiggum should scale to half the yield only if he was caught at point blank by the explosion.

If it happened that way, it should be acceptable.

While I wait for the feat. Since there doesn't seem to be any disagreement. Can I go ahead and add the new abilities for homer and Add guns to his standard Arsenal (since discussed he carries several on him)
 

While I wait for the feat. Since there doesn't seem to be any disagreement. Can I go ahead and add the new abilities for homer and Add guns to his standard Arsenal (since discussed he carries several on him)

If you wish I guess the abilities do look A OK to me, As for guns wouldn't it be similar to CJ who has boosted Subsonic+ to Supersonic+ Speeds?
 
@Calaca

What are the conclusions here?
 
Buttersamuri contacted staff group members to check if upgrading Homer to 8-C scaling to Wiggum's feat of an explosion is okay.

On the other hand, the most notable ability addition is Homer's High-Low Regen for somehow reconnecting the vital cords that attach the heart to the body after a person took Homer's heart out of his body, on top of the hole in his chest.
 
The Calaca said:
Buttersamuri contacted staff group members to check if upgrading Homer to 8-C scaling to Wiggum's feat of an explosion is okay.

On the other hand, the most notable ability addition is Homer's High-Low Regen for somehow reconnecting the vital cords that attach the heart to the body after a person took Homer's heart out of his body, on top of the hole in his chest.
8-C meaning Building Level+? I remember the yield being a good High 8-C but I guess that's fine.
 
8-C sounds a bit outlier-ish to me.
 
8-C comes from 2 feats. The Skinner car feat. (That's a high 8-C. However due to the distance Skinner is away from it. It knocks it down to regular 8-C). And the destruction of the Bradley fighting vehicle. Which Wiggum tanked directly.
 
Okay. It is still far above their regular showings though.
 
Their regular showings always tend to be casual. Much like Peter Griffin having a lot of wall feats. But his general higher stuff gets Small building. Plus. Homers wall feat currently (the sky diving one). This isn't even for certain accurate. As we had no idea how fast he was actually falling. All we know is. It was faster than sound. And by quite a decent amount.

Plus. Plenty of feats likely can make it more consistent. Example. Homer shaking buildings. He once shook a theater. Which is a massive area to be shaking. And the shaking do actually happen. The rood even crumbled a bit from it. Acknowledging the shaking did actually occur.

And backing all that up. There also was the beer can explosion which got City block iirc at Dead center. Though that did take homer to a hospital. Bart was in it. Not dead center. And he survived without any real injury. So while city block definitely shouldn't scale since that hospitalized homer. The Building level area is a lot more believable since Bart was caught in the explosion.
 
we should calc the yield difference using the previous formula to see how much energy Bart took during the explosion.

BTW, did that calc use the explosion radius only, or did it take into account the distance the roof flew to the sky?
 
I don't believe it did. It only took In account the beer exploding. It's probably best if someone who is familiar with these kinds of calcs re does the calc themselves that way we can be as accurate as possible.
 
Ok. Just got someone to confirm that Wiggum feat should be good. So with that. And the couple abilities, and homers guns. All should be good to go now.

And leave this open so when the Beer explosion feat is finished up, we can discuss what to do with it.
 
IIRC we have Optional Equipment now to add to the profiles. I guess we should add the guns to that section since it's not something he carries most of the time. It's a situational gag, tbh.
 
Well. All the guns yea. He had several guns a few times as a situational gag. Several pistols, Uzis, shotguns, and machine guns iirc. But he has actually pulled out a pistol at times several times through the show. A single pistol for standard should be fair. Especially since he has worked a lot of jobs that qualify him to carry one.
 
May take a bit to find actual scenes due to copyright. But aside from the episode where he buys his guns and carries them on him. The episode also implied that basically every Springfield person carries a gun. (Lenny, Carol, Moe, and others pull out guns). And they don't ever actually get rid of the gun at the end of the episode iirc. Cause Snake tries to rob the place they are in and homer pulls out the gun despite claiming he got rid of it. And Was in a gun Club/Organization. And he also makes note he doesn't have control on getting rid of the gun.

The episode Where Lisa picks up smoking. that's always an episode where he pulls out a pistol and has two more on him. Which is an episode after Empty cartridge (the episode where homer actually gets a gun and joins the club)

Also a few episodes where he acts as a guard. Like the time he almost had to fight the mafia and carried a gun.

So with all that. I don't think it's completely unreal to say homer would have a single pistol on him. And it seems like it would make less sense he wouldn't have a pistol. being in a literal club/Organization that is about guns and carrying them. And most of Springfield carries guns. So would make sense he does too.
 
Buttersamuri said:
May take a bit to find actual scenes due to copyright. But aside from the episode where he buys his guns and carries them on him. The episode also implied that basically every Springfield person carries a gun. (Lenny, Carol, Moe, and others pull out guns). And they don't ever actually get rid of the gun at the end of the episode iirc. Cause Snake tries to rob the place they are in and homer pulls out the gun despite claiming he got rid of it. And Was in a gun Club/Organization. And he also makes note he doesn't have control on getting rid of the gun.

The episode Where Lisa picks up smoking. that's always an episode where he pulls out a pistol and has two more on him. Which is an episode after Empty cartridge (the episode where homer actually gets a gun and joins the club)

Also a few episodes where he acts as a guard. Like the time he almost had to fight the mafia and carried a gun.

So with all that. I don't think it's completely unreal to say homer would have a single pistol on him. And it seems like it would make less sense he wouldn't have a pistol. being in a literal club/Organization that is about guns and carrying them. And most of Springfield carries guns. So would make sense he does too.
Apparently he carries guns with him but how fast is a pistol again? I think around Subsonic(+)?
 
I will unsubscribe to this thread due to time constraints. You can send me a message if you need my help after you reach a conclusion.
 
Since the Wiggum feat was already accepted, as well as the abilities. I'll go ahead and add them since we are good with them, and wait for feedback on the Pistol and TNT explosion feat for homer which I'll add later when I get a thumbs up on it.
 
I put his guns under Optional equipment. But I still think we should give him a single pistol as standard giving his many showings and jobs that have shown him to have one.
 
So. Ant removed Non-Physical Interaction from homers page just recently noting it was too inconsistent.

What do y'all think on that? I don't exactly think it can be called inconsistent if he never tried to interact with non physical other than that one time. Plus we gave him other abilities based on things he has done like once. What do y'all think about it?
 
I continue to maintain that a single use inconsistency, that does not at all fit with his regular portrayal, should preferably not be added.
 
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