Spongebob LS downgrades

[Serlock_Holmes]

bugs bunny is also from a different fuc-king cartoon

Still you know a cartoon. They have pretty much similar rules like with Popeye and other similar stuff.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Bugs bunny is literally Universe level and he avoids gun shots and knifes.

In bugs' case he's actually got more then one uni and uni+ feat!

 

[Shmooply]

bugs bunny is also from a different fuc-king cartoon

Mods he said cuss word, crush his balls.
genuinely gonna start taking shots for every whataboutism brought up here

 

[Armorchompy]

Still you know a cartoon. They have pretty much similar rules like with Popeye and other similar stuff.

No they don't, LT has a whole ass accepted power page that canonizes what you're arguing we should just assume by default

 

[DaReaperMan]

Mods he said cuss word, crush his balls.
genuinely gonna start taking shots for every whataboutism brought up here

That sounds like a one-way trip straight to the hospital if you're using alcohol.

Also, I VEHEMENTLY disagree with any Varies rating, you do not get that kind of freedom without an in-verse mechanism explaining it.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

That sounds like a one-way trip straight to the hospital if you're using alcohol.

Also, I VEHEMENTLY disagree with any Varies rating, you do not get that kind of freedom without an in-verse mechanism explaining it.

Like toon force? Or should we just calc every feat and then divide them and take the mean? Or maybe take the median feat.

 

[Armorchompy]

You don't need to go that far, but you do need to find a rating that is consistent, obviously there's gonna be feats above and below but y'know, something that has a decent amount of good feats and isn't high enough to look ridiculous when juxtaposed with most of the verse's portrayal.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Like toon force? Or should we just calc every feat and then divide them and take the mean? Or maybe take the median feat.

No, Toon Force has never been considered a good enough reason for a Varies rating in my day.

 

[Hypertornado099]

No one in this thread will be able to find out a consistent rating unless someone watches the entire show

 

[DaReaperMan]

No one in this thread will be able to find out a consistent rating unless someone watches the entire show

Wasn't SpongeBob Tier 8? That seemed pretty consistent

 

[Robo432343]

is spongebob picking up a boat car a good LS feat

 

[Hypertornado099]

is spongebob picking up a boat car a good LS feat

Yeah but its still not superhuman

 

[Da3ggman]

As a diehard SpongeBob fan and wanker, I think I'm leaning towards agreeing with the downgrade.

Obviously a lot of the lower end outliers (failing to lift plushies, stick with two marshmallows, etc.) should be thrown out due to how they contradict the basic premise of the show (that he is a fry cook that needs to flip patties), but Universal lifting strength is so far out of anything else in the show that its kinda ridiculous.

As for a feat to calc, might I suggest using the time Squidward and SpongeBob pulled a ship and an anchor respectively?

 

[koopa3144]

I think Spongebob rotating the planet would be the best high end LS replacement feat.

 

[Hypertornado099]

That is probably some weird physics manipulation

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Isn't Spongebob tiny? That's still below average human

There's some spongebob guidebook stuff which places cast at quite normal human sizes so that would massively increase size of everything but I don't have that and it would be for another CRT.

 

[Robo432343]

ok what about carrying a lighthouse with patrick

 

[Gasper]

Ok, lets not get with the most absurd LS feats shall we?

 

[Armorchompy]

There's some spongebob guidebook stuff which places cast at quite normal human sizes so that would massively increase size of everything but I don't have that and it would be for another CRT.

I mean the series itself says he's 4'', I don't think that'd overturn it

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

He has small size on the profile...

I have already shown countless times that small objects do not matter, one of the cars they used even knocked out a cow to the moon or everything surviving black holes into alternative universe somehow.

Stop ignoring these points, I'm tired of waking up and dealing with people like you everyday, these lies.

First off, "surviving a black hole" isn't a dura feat, it's a resistance (not a dura feat would be relevant here), secondly, they definitely don't seem to survive that, given that it cuts to a parallel universe.

(This is also a FTL antifeat, by the way!)

Dude just stop talking, you have not been paying attention, you're points are low down awful, straight up I'm sorry.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I think Spongebob rotating the planet would be the best high end LS replacement feat.

Which he did twice in the newer episodes btw, same with lifting ocean on his back feat.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

As a diehard SpongeBob fan and wanker, I think I'm leaning towards agreeing with the downgrade.

Obviously a lot of the lower end outliers (failing to lift plushies, stick with two marshmallows, etc.) should be thrown out due to how they contradict the basic premise of the show (that he is a fry cook that needs to flip patties), but Universal lifting strength is so far out of anything else in the show that its kinda ridiculous.

They will keep on mentioning it blindly, despite how contradictory into its own self it is.

As for a feat to calc, might I suggest using the time Squidward and SpongeBob pulled a ship and an anchor respectively?

There are better feats then this anyways.

 

[Armorchompy]

Stop ignoring these points, I'm tired of waking up and dealing with people like you everyday, these lies.

Dude just stop talking, you have not been paying attention, you're points are low down awful, straight up I'm sorry.

Listen, I don't know why you're getting so pissed off about people disagreeing regarding the ratings of a children's cartoon, but it's pretty inexcusable conduct and you've been doing it for a decent while so keep this up and I'm just going to thread-ban you and/or report you.

 

[Robo432343]

Ok, lets not get with the most absurd LS feats shall we?

its not as bad as the universal LS feat tho tf

 

[Hypertornado099]

There's some spongebob guidebook stuff which places cast at quite normal human sizes so that would massively increase size of everything but I don't have that and it would be for another CRT.

That is definitely not true because we see them clearly not being human sized, he's like 4 inches tall

 

[koopa3144]

Btw while I'm neutral on the LS downgrade itself, If this CRT goes through I think Bob and others should get an Unknown LS until there's a calc or something that decides a new LS for them.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Listen, I don't know why you're getting so pissed off about people disagreeing regarding the ratings of a children's cartoon, but it's pretty inexcusable conduct so keep this up and I just thread-ban you and/or report you.

Well let's see...

You keep ignoring feats that establishes something for once (I.E: FTL "Outlier" when in reality he's done this so many god damn times, this is what you want shown: CONSISTENCY) even though I already labelled my points, plus the world of SB is NOT LIKE OURS and even with the "Oh but its smoll" excuse cannot work when one of these smoll objects can push a heavy weight like a car or a rocket as showcased...

You even said the BH feat isn't dura but resistance (Which is beyond absurd as it is considering the MANY BH FEATS THIS SITE HAS CALCULATED), when in the episode they referenced the fact it happened they just ended up in alternative universe from it. It will get frustrating.

I see it here the whole time and it ain't just you that I had a radar on now, though I seen you doing this for many years, that's how bad it is and it's time you actually get called out for it.

 

[Armorchompy]

Alright, I wasn't even saying half of that but, if that's how it's gonna be.

 

[StretchSebe]

Yeah if SpongeBob has no feats even BEGINNING to approach uni LS then that shit needs to be downgraded, as for this...

... wym? We're talking about him unraveling a universe by pulling a string composing said universe.

This seemed like something discussed and eventually accepted through various discussion/crt threads awhile ago at this point.

Okay so cool, all of SpongeBob high ends are also Rule of Funny and we turn all of his stats to Unknown

Also, that is pretty wild that you come into the thread saying you reject any Rule of Funny feats while tacitly suggesting you accept any Rule of Funny anti-feats.

You might as well just say 'well I don't like this series so downgrade it' at that point xD

 

[Gasper]

its not as bad as the universal LS feat tho tf

So? Can he do that consistently?

 

[Armorchompy]

... wym? We're talking about him unraveling a universe by pulling a string composing said universe.

The string is hax, is it not? It's listed as Existance Erasure, something erasing the universe wouldn't be the same mass as it.

Also, that is pretty wild that you come into the thread saying you reject any Rule of Funny feats while tacitly suggesting you accept any Rule of Funny anti-feats.

You might as well just say 'well I don't like this series so downgrade it' at that point xD

No one said anything even close to that.

 

[Gasper]

... wym? We're talking about him unraveling a universe by pulling a string composing said universe.

This seemed like something discussed and eventually accepted through various discussion/crt threads awhile ago at this point.

Basing his entire tier on one single feat sounds like a really bad idea.

 

[StretchSebe]

Basing his entire tier on one single feat sounds like a really bad idea.

I'm not even a supporter of the verse, or that knowledgeable. It just seems that a basic look over of his page and verse shows his main tiering isn't universal. There are various pieces of consistent evidence for Multi-Solar System and Galaxy level being his main tierings, and most importantly:

Something tells me this thread's about to derail, so I want to again mention that we're here to discuss replacing the outdated rating with something more consistent, not go back and forth about the "small verse = 10-C!!" argument.

Like Shmooply said earlier, we're talking about Lifting Strength, not tiering in this thread. His tiering is based on a number of things, and we're only discussing a stat/feat based on one of those 'via hax.'

The string is hax, is it not? It's listed as Existance Erasure, something erasing the universe wouldn't be the same mass as it.

It is hax, but he still has to physically carry and pull the string for it to work. The string itself unravels the universe through the pulling.

No one said anything even close to that.

You can see who I replied to, right?

 

[DaReaperMan]

... wym? We're talking about him unraveling a universe by pulling a string composing said universe.

This seemed like something discussed and eventually accepted through various discussion/crt threads awhile ago at this point.

Also, that is pretty wild that you come into the thread saying you reject any Rule of Funny feats while tacitly suggesting you accept any Rule of Funny anti-feats.

You might as well just say 'well I don't like this series so downgrade it' at that point xD

Do you know how many ******* zeroes there are between Class Z and Universal LS? Let's go high-end Class Z for you, 21 zeroes going by tons, you wanna know how many zeroes there are for Uni? 500. this is not what you call a small outlier.

I honest to God don't care, there comes a point where feats on BOTH ENDS need to be dismissed as outliers. Uni LS is one of them, and so is being unable to lift basic shit.

 

[StretchSebe]

I honest to God don't care, there comes a point where feats on BOTH ENDS need to be dismissed as outliers. Uni LS is one of them, and so is being unable to lift basic shit.

Okay so cool, all of SpongeBob high ends are also Rule of Funny and we turn all of his stats to Unknown

No offense, but you're pretty explicitly engaging in a false dichotomy here, and it's clear you have partiality coming in the thread to dismiss the feat.

You say 'both ends' should be dismissed, but the feat in question, the subject matter of this thread, has been the subject of various threads before being accepted and used.

The feat alone is well established and explained already. As we've established earlier on in this thread as well, characters and their tierings aren't based on anti feats: Characters like Kratos and Goku were brought up, and rightly not downplayed for their 'anti-feats.' Obviously, actual feats matters much more to the character and their tiering. The practicality of saying that both feat and anti-feat are equally 'invalid' here only serves to invalidate the actual feat rather than be 'fair' and invalidate the sporadic anti-feats mentioned.

The practical outcome of 'both ends' being dismissed is the feat being dismissed.

Do you know how many ***** zeroes there are between Class Z and Universal LS? Let's go high-end Class Z for you, 21 zeroes going by tons, you wanna know how many zeroes there are for Uni? 500. this is not what you call a small outlier.

Also, I don't know how to tell you, but the string did unravel the universe. Again, I suggest looking into the various threads on the matter, and his character page where this is clearly explained.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Well if we are downgrading the lifting strength, I'd suggest some feats for a better rating

• Ripping up the ground out of sheer anger
• Walking through a metal wall
• Dragged a large anchor (with Squidward dragging an entire boat)

I think the metal wall feat would be unironically Class K

Just adding some more feats in case

• SpongeBob and Patrick flipping Squidward's house
• Squidward carrying his own house
• SpongeBob pushing through a metal wall and fridge, walking through his pineapple's walls, and pushing through Squidward's house walls
• SpongeBob tears through another metal wall

 

[StretchSebe]

If we are to disregard the well established feat though, I agree Class Z would be a fine compromise. As mentioned in the thread too, he has lifted the planet before, and I do believe there is a calc of him lifting the ocean as well.

 

[StretchSebe]

I think Spongebob rotating the planet would be the best high end LS replacement feat.

Oh and this. It's with a wrench, but I mean he rotates the whole planet. In any case, these would be more consistent with his main tierings of Multi-Solar System through Galaxy Level.

 

[Propellus]

Oh and this. It's with a wrench, but I mean he rotates the whole planet.

Like this?

 

[DaReaperMan]

No offense, but you're pretty explicitly engaging in a false dichotomy here, and it's clear you have partiality coming in the thread to dismiss the feat.

You say 'both ends' should be dismissed, but the feat in question, the subject matter of this thread, has been the subject of various threads before being accepted and used.

The feat alone is well established and explained already. As we've established earlier on in this thread as well, characters and their tierings aren't based on anti feats: Characters like Kratos and Goku were brought up, and rightly not downplayed for their 'anti-feats.' Obviously, actual feats matters much more to the character and their tiering. The practicality of saying that both feat and anti-feat are equally 'invalid' here only serves to invalidate the actual feat rather than be 'fair' and invalidate the sporadic anti-feats mentioned.

The practical outcome of 'both ends' being dismissed is the feat being dismissed.

Also, I don't know how to tell you, but the string did unravel the universe. Again, I suggest looking into the various threads on the matter, and his character page where this is clearly explained.

I don't give a damn about other threads, I'm here in this one, and being blunt with you and saying it's a horrific outlier. If you don't like that I disagree as you stick with your referenceless SpongeBob profiles then I don't know what to tell you.

And yes, I am taking a shot at the fact that not a damn thing on those profiles has references despite high stats.