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Spongebob LS downgrades
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Agree with this. The fact that he has no other feat approaching Universal Lifting Strength and numerous Anti-feats is also an issue.
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yeah definitely
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I agree with the downgrade.
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Unironically
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That's fine with me. But I would like to hear the supporters side for this one though
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Idk much about spongebob but that would only be at his most powerful.
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Could be a varies. Below average human up to Class Y (or Z idk what earth lifting feats are)
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I guess this works
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nah, varies things need a mechanic, not just inconsistency
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He pulled the entire universe apart to it's end however.
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Not LS feat.
That's just hax, something even the profile notes.
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The profile lists what the string does as Existence Erasure hax. Getting Lifting Strength from it is just wrong.
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Even then if we get rid of Universal LS:
SB would still have some Multi-Stellar LS as SpongeBob destroyed his own brain in the episode Squilliam Returns (Patrick also split SpongeBob’s brain in half in the episode Sportz), which contains an entire pocket dimension housing a starry sky in the background as we see in episodes like Procrastination and InSPONGEiac. Plankton (During Sponge Out Of Water) and the Flying Dutchman (During The Legend of Boo-Kini Bottom) at one point even entered SpongeBob’s brain to see that it’s an entire world where in both instances we see a sun in the background. SB has tussled/carried his sentient starry world infested brain throughout his life, including others like Patrick have borrowed the same brain.
In the case with universal LS, I will still attempt this as:
Patrick quickly creating/holding a parallel universe with ease, Sandy wrangling the Dutchman in BFBB (before anyone asks, Prawn who was from BFBB has appeared in both the show and the comics, one of the writers have even bluntly stated that the SBSP Verse has no chronological canon: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5), with the Dutchman being also able to create numerous Dimensions/just literal Universes in general like the
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I wouldn't take this too seriously, in most of episodes he's struggling to open chests and lift toys.
To me this looks like Patrik holds a portal of somekind to other dimension/universe.
wouldn't say that's LS either.
Have no idea what's that all about.
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Uh, carrying around something that contains a pocket dimension does not make you scale to the weight of that dimension
Also come on man
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How is this a LS feat.
Links to an unavailable video.
It's literally a dream. Your evidence even contradicts itself somewhat because it also shows the dream version of Spongebob unable to lift things like the door of his own house in it.
Already explained above.
What? Creating and holding a device that shows visions of other worlds isn't even remotely the same as actually holding that alternate world.
Prove Dutchman can somehow lift the worlds he creates.
Literally none of these feats prove in any way multi-stellar LS Spongebob.
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Hold on, I have some things to say...
Okay no, everyone: STOP. ******* Stop...
I'm damn tired of everyone's ignorance regarding this: Get out with that excuse, screw the whole anti-feat BS you and from Maverick, or anybody else that is constantly using this outdated lense: 10-C has been long debunked and don't pretend it hasn't good lord. This is the same excuse being used in being unable to lift common items like marshmallows on stick, drinks, and whatnot... When reality: How the **** will he even be hired if he lacks even the most minuscule shit if he can cook Patties ON THE DAILY??
In fact the one where he lifts the marshmallows off the ground? Sunk the floor despite being light, the verse is not bound to logic as it is...
Have any of you even paid attention to the Verse page or SB's profile on the 10-C argument anyways??
Anyways apologies for how scuffed I came out, I am tired from IRL bullshit as it is, but there will be another here shortly to lend in a hand if they can.
Okay no, everyone: STOP. ******* Stop...
I'm damn tired of everyone's ignorance regarding this: Get out with that excuse, screw the whole anti-feat BS you and from Maverick, or anybody else that is constantly using this outdated lense: 10-C has been long debunked and don't pretend it hasn't good lord. This is the same excuse being used in being unable to lift common items like marshmallows on stick, drinks, and whatnot... When reality: How the **** will he even be hired if he lacks even the most minuscule shit if he can cook Patties ON THE DAILY??
In fact the one where he lifts the marshmallows off the ground? Sunk the floor despite being light, the verse is not bound to logic as it is...
Have any of you even paid attention to the Verse page or SB's profile on the 10-C argument anyways??
Contextually, he created a literal alternate universe and can lift the damn thing. Sandy has wrangled the Dutchman before and Mr. Krabs has restrained a fodder ghost that is a literal void. I know how crazy it is at first, but I SWEAR... I have seen some qualify with similar attributes here.
Honestly, you're not one to talk here mate, I seen your arguments before.
Anyways apologies for how scuffed I came out, I am tired from IRL bullshit as it is, but there will be another here shortly to lend in a hand if they can.
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Yeah no. Containing a pocket reality is not Lifting Strength.
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The """debunk""" is just saying "this one anti-feat isn't fully consistent", it means absolutely nothing and is very far from a proper "debunk" of it, they're still valid to bring up in a LS context and it definitely doesn't allow you to ignore any and all anti-feats.
It's not crazy, it's wrong. Moving something that has a pocket universe within it isn't a LS feat. If you've seen it accepted elsewhere it either had different context or it was also wrong.
While I would be extremely eager to see what I've said that's so outrageous that it remains stuck in your memory, I unfortunately have the task to try and prevent derailing in threads, so I would ask you to not get into it here. Feel free to do so on my message wall, although you probably shouldn't expect much of a response to it.
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Cooking patties using a spatula... that can flip the patties for him.
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Spongebob consistently flips the spatula on his own terms without the need of it doing it itself though which outnumbers this one. Note being, it doesn't mean he's incapable of that even if his spatula is alive
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Anyone can say whatever regarding the current LS situation... But No, definitively speaking: he literally operated a complex spatula gadget since the pilot, can serve people plates of food on the daily, amongst other basic tasks.
Cease this god damn gas lighting. I'm tired of it.
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Can you chill out a bit? This is just a Spongebob thread.
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Why is this so funny to me lol
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I'm sorry, but there is a reason I am not chill, I am exhausted from these points specifically from Below Average tomfockery. One of them are already using "The Spatula acts on his own" excuse and cannot believe it's being used.
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I can understand Niwde's perspective, considering Spongebob had a history of downgrades and lowballs, and any upgrade thread that was made would always be stonewalled by a selective group of people on here (notably Blaze). But I digress.
Prove that Spongebob doesn't need the help of his spatula to flip patties instead of saying that he can do it himself and then post a random gif of him normally flipping patties, since we have proof that not only can his spatula help flip patties for him, but in the exact same episode he's shown snapping his arms off trying to flip a massive pile of patties. Him being able to use a technologically-advanced spatula means nothing when we've been shown that heavily advanced spatulas have a will of their own. Show an actually consistent LS feat that he performs that can shutdown every single scene of him struggling to lift plushies, open the doors of his and Sandy's house, and his arms and legs constantly snapping and/or bending from trying to lift other things.
Prove that Spongebob doesn't need the help of his spatula to flip patties instead of saying that he can do it himself and then post a random gif of him normally flipping patties, since we have proof that not only can his spatula help flip patties for him, but in the exact same episode he's shown snapping his arms off trying to flip a massive pile of patties. Him being able to use a technologically-advanced spatula means nothing when we've been shown that heavily advanced spatulas have a will of their own. Show an actually consistent LS feat that he performs that can shutdown every single scene of him struggling to lift plushies, open the doors of his and Sandy's house, and his arms and legs constantly snapping and/or bending from trying to lift other things.
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Then, I don't really think you've been watching the show enough, if you're really saying that Spongebob is that incapable of flipping patties. Which is a pretty easy task actually, burden of proof would actually be onto you if you're claiming that the spatula really is doing everything Spongebob is doing. But, I can mention that Spongebob literally choked out Mr. Krabs who can lift the entire Krusty Krab, opened Patrick's rock
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Doesn't episodes starting with him already at the Krusty Krab immediately disprove the idea he can't open his own door? Let alone well into the day, in the middle of work that he can't flip a spatula on his own?
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Everything else in the franchise shows otherwise (besides Viacom is a pain in the ass to deal with as it is), I do not need to show you, it's common sense... How blind are all of you here? The shit he cooks or plates he serves are consistently served by him and no other force since the beginning. That's like saying Kratos can barely cut wood, Goku gets effected by bullets or basic lasers, Sonic gets KO'd by the most basic shit, yet we all know they are powerful characters as it is.
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He hadn't trained for a while, it's a DB thing.
Something that has been retold. Since the new one is him in base form, and it has always been said about Goku's weakness of lowering his guard and him ending up taking damage because of it.
I don't know the other verses, but DB has this context.
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Gotta love whataboutism for verses with clearly explain mechanics. Spongebob is a toon verse where inconsistency runs rampant.
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