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i mean, he could still use that feat as its still listed on the profile
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Sonic vs Garou version 2.0 (10-0-1)
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He was obviously getting killed, it was even stated that he was on the verge of death. Garou was clearly getting dominated. He was only able to stand via willpower. He's fought multiple people who are way stronger than him, to the point of getting one shot. That's the whole point of his character. He goes through things that will kill any other people, but because of his will, he survives, and later evolves.
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Irrelevant. If he can endure an ENTIRE CHAPTER of being pummeled by someone 30x stronger, he obviously scales. That's not even a question. Being able to tank attacks from someone means your dura scales to their AP, plain and simple.
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Which just means they scale to that level of durability. Endurance would be being able to fight normally as if not exhausted and beaten after fighting for a long time. Dura is LITERALY just the ability to tank attacks. If he can tank as you said "An entire chapter" from someone, his dura scales.
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That's not true. He can harm him, but it will take more than a 90 second pummeling to take him out.
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He did not tank. He was physically destroyed. It was his willpower that was carrying him. Not his physical stats.
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No, he couldn't. If he can tank attacks from someone 30x stronger for a CHAPTER, then someone attacking him who's only '6x' stronger won't do anything at all.
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If he can survive attacks from someone 30x stronger, he scales. I use the word 'tank' vaguely. I don't mean he's stonewalling the hits with no damage, I mean he can survive hits from someone 30x stronger. THUS his Durability scales.
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Do you understand what it means to tank an attack? Getting absolutely destroyed and broken down, but being able to stand through willpower alone is not tanking.
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A 30x gap would have Garou getting his head punched off his shoulders :V
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If Bang is 30x stronger, either Bang was holding back against his pupil or Garou’s durability scales. He gets one-shot otherwise by Bang.
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Great job, you proved our point. Wiki quote En quote states "while durability is the ability to withstand damage"
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And it said not to confuse it with endurance/stamina. And in the stamina page, it has Pain and Injury Tolerance as a bullet point. It states:
This is exactly what Garou is doing.
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Garou’s stamina feats only had him be put on the verge of death but a nonstop beating from someone 6x stronger than him for 90 seconds would outright kill him.
Bang didn’t inflict any fatal injuries on Garou.
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Even for other characters, like Zoro (One Piece), He doesn't scale to Kuma's Ursus Shock because it nearly killed him
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Is Garou NOT by definition withstand damage? He did. Case closed, it's not that hard to comprehend.
When it comes to stamina, Dura/AP differences aren't taken into consideration. Here's an example of stamina. Two equals are fighting, and inflict terrible injuries on eachother, but they continue to fight.
If Garo can withstand even a single hit from Bang at full power, he scales. Stamina is his ability to keep fighting even after injury, not his ability to not be killed/knocked out immediately by an attack.
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If you can elaborate to what "fatal injuries" Sonic would do to Garou, that would be nice.
Also, can someone tell me how he activates time stop? Since it's not really in character for Sonic to use it in combat (from what I'm hearing from others), the only time he would be able to use it is after/during a h2h combat exchange with Garou, in which he would get absolutely brutalized. If Sonic can use it while being overwhelmed, then sure, but if not, Garou should take this handily.
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? do you know what a 6x ap advantage is? garou's attacks are literally going to be doing nothing
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lol, I'm ignoring this, as you seem to be ignoring what the wiki says.
The page gave examples of stamina, and one of those is continuing to fight after taking attacks that would kill you.
Is Garou NOT by definition continuing to fight? He did. Case closed, it's not that hard to comprehend.
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Durability Negation. Also, a 6x gap doesn't mean that it won't do any damage. It just means that it would do a lot less damage than if the Gap was 1x
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Man endured barrages before he was at the brink of death, he scales. Not to mention he had already been exhausted due to all the fighting prior TO the fight
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THATS CLEARLY ENDURANCE LOL. I'm not honestly considering of whether you are confused, or are acting ignorant on purpose. Garou obviously doesn't scale.
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Did I just read garou tanking 90 seconds barrage of 6x times his own AP and suriving? what the hell?I will vote sonic=/
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Yea, except none of Bang's attacks threaten to kill him after repeatedly barraging him. Hell, man was tanking attacks from Bang AND his brother.
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someone is arguing garou could tank attacks from people 30x stronger then him for an entire chapter and could keep going
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Dura neg.
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if bang, who has 30x the ap advantage punched garou ONCE, and garou didn't outright die or become a cripple, then he scales. Obviously a barrage would destroy him. But Bang is literally 30x so even one punch should normally do the trick unless Garou scales, which he should since he didn't die in one hit
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Which is impossible without his durability scaling.
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That's literally Garou.
Bang even quetsions how Garou can keep going with his body like that.
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The wiki doesn’t quantify stamina via AP gaps, but the degree of injury inflicted. So Garou “tanking attacks from someone 30x stronger” isn’t relevant unless he was literally ripped to shreds.
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