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Sonic vs Garou version 2.0 (10-0-1)

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Can you show dark sonic using Chaos Energy please.
Can’t. He didn’t do anything other than stomped his opponent and was immediately talked down by someone he is friendly with (Eggman). He’s only shown stomping his opponent.

 
PS and Garou's speed were equal. They clashed many times with neither having the upper hand, until Garou blitzed and one shotted.
They were talking at that speed. It takes more than 0.013 to say words, so to them, more than 0.013 seconds passed in their perception.
 
So it's your headcanon that he uses Chaos Energy hax normally?
Chaos Control to teleport the Ark, Disintegration on Perfect Chaos, channeling 2 Emeralds to boost himself and fly against an Egg Mech, Dimensional Travel, Chaos Control against the Final Mova, etc.
 
They were talking at that speed. It takes more than 0.013 to say words, so to them, more than 0.013 seconds passed in their perception.
The narration says that Garou keeps accelerating, and this is supported by this, this, and more. Garou would just eventually overwhelm him with speed and dura neg attacks until he wins.
 
If it helps, I already sent them teleporting the ark earlier in this thread.
It took both Super Sonic and Super Shadow, which (correct me if I'm wrong as I know almost nothing abt Sonic verse) is stronger that dark sonic.

How would that be viable in a fight?

Is that in character?
 
The narration says that Garou keeps accelerating, and this is supported by this, this, and more. Garou would just eventually overwhelm him with speed and dura neg attacks until he wins.
Yes, but 0.013 is wank in Speed Equalized, when that wasn’t what was happening in their perception.


It took both Super Sonic and Super Shadow, which (correct me if I'm wrong as I know almost nothing abt Sonic verse) is stronger that dark sonic.

How would that be viable in a fight?

Is that in character?
Sonic and Shadow teleports themselves in Base and Time Stops large spaceships. Garou doesn’t have Large Size to compete with Space Colony Ark anyways.

Base Sonic’s behavior has no barring on rage mode Dark Sonic.
 
Yes, but 0.013 is wank in Speed Equalized, when that wasn’t what was happening in their perception.
0.013 seconds is 0.013 seconds. Garou would just keep pummeling him as he gets stronger and faster to the point where Sonic can't even react or have a moment to get a breather.
 
0.013 seconds is 0.013 seconds. Garou would just keep pummeling him as he gets stronger and faster to the point where Sonic can't even react or have a moment to get a breather.
Strawman. 0.013 seconds didn’t past in their perspective, only in real time. This is a Speed Equal fight. PS was reacting to Garou the entire fight till the end.


I don't get what this sentence means...
I don’t know what you misunderstood.

Anyway, stop bringing up if Dark Sonic is going to do Time Stop. We been over that this entire thread with no change. Bringing that up again is stonewalling.
 
Strawman. 0.013 seconds didn’t past in their perspective, only in real time. This is a Speed Equal fight. PS was reacting to Garou the entire fight till the end.
That's not a strawman lmfao. The only reason PS was able to clash with him is because he's skilled enough. You would have to provide skill feats that put him even close to the lvl of Garou to show that he can contend while close. If not, the fight will just be a beatdown until Garou evolves to be fast and strong enough to dominate.
 
Anyway, stop bringing up if Dark Sonic is going to do Time Stop. We been over that this entire thread with no change. Bringing that up again is stonewalling.
The only thing we've brought up is the fact that he is able to use it. He has not used it in character, and he has never used it in fights. It's like me saying, "Garou will poison Sonic with Poisonous Ogre Fist," because I know Garou has the martial art style. He's never used it before, and we don't know how he would use it in combat and if he would.

Come up with new arguments not based off of headcanon.
 
whats a space colony ark
Oh, giant space station lol. Seems I’m the one knowing both series here.


The only thing we've brought up is the fact that he is able to use it. He has not used it in character, and he has never used it in fights. It's like me saying, "Garou will poison Sonic with Poisonous Ogre Fist," because I know Garou has the martial art style. He's never used it before, and we don't know how he would use it in combat and if he would.

Come up with new arguments not based off of headcanon.
It’s not Headcanon. Dark Sonic is bloodlusted Sonic who really wants to end his opponent and knows Time Stop is an ability he can use through Chaos Control. That’s not Headcanon.
 
That's not a strawman lmfao. The only reason PS was able to clash with him is because he's skilled enough. You would have to provide skill feats that put him even close to the lvl of Garou to show that he can contend while close. If not, the fight will just be a beatdown until Garou evolves to be fast and strong enough to dominate.
Er, what does skill have to do with “Garou one shots in 0.013 seconds! Gg!!”? Sounds like the 0.013 is not true for Speed Equal if skill was effective.
 
It's common knowledge that bullets have piercing damage. If I were to have a sword and pierce an athletic human, I won't even need to use half of the force that person scales to to be able to pierce them.
I'm pretty sure shotgun shells do more than just pierce though, correct me if I'm wrong?
 
I'm pretty sure shotgun shells do more than just pierce though, correct me if I'm wrong?
They are meant for piercing, though they are more on the 'blunt force' side given their shape:

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Pretty sure Shotgun Shells have a bunch of little pellets/steel balls inside of them though.

Not that it matters, even if something large not meant for piercing was hitting you with the same kinetic energy as a shotgun, the human targeted is getting ripped to shreds.
 
If it’s not on his profile, it can’t be applied.
His argument is something that actually happened and is in the profile.

Since dark sonic stopping time isn't listed in his profile (it just ties stopping time into chaos control, with no mention of dark sonic being able to use chaos control anywhere in that profile), can we just disregard the argument you spent half this thread making? I think it'd be fairly rude to do so and the spirit of the site is to argue what characters can do, and why they can do it, not what they can do but only if I first make a note of it in the wiki.

Even if it wasn't on garous profile, if he just supplied scans, then it should be fine. Profile can be updated later.

In fact if we go off the profiles dark sonic is inexplicably and arbitarily copy pasted from super sonic despite a specific note on the page not to do this. Which should be amended. We have no evidence at all dark sonic scales to super in any way.
 
Since dark sonic stopping time isn't listed in his profile (it just ties stopping time into chaos control
Base Sonic does have Time Stop listed on his profile.

with no mention of dark sonic being able to use chaos control anywhere in that profile)
Dark Sonic is listed "Same as before on an enhanced scale" to Base Sonic (Who uses Chaos Control) and Dark Sonic is powered by Fake Chaos Emeralds.

In fact if we go off the profiles dark sonic is inexplicably and arbitarily copy pasted from super sonic despite a specific note on the page not to do this. Which should be amended. We have no evidence at all dark sonic scales to super in any way.
Dark Sonic isn't listed with anything from Super Sonic and is even in the same tier as Base Sonic. What profile are you reading?
 
Anyway, this should be closed. Garou doesn't have an Island key anymore for this match up to be valid by wiki standards.
 
The one in the op. The one where if you scroll down to the sonic, dark, super selection, then click dark sonic, you will see super sonic feats copy pasted into dark despite those being things super sonic did. What profile are you reading?
 
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