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Sonic upgrades
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That shot is even worse, Maverick. You can directly compare those "planets" to the size of individual buildings in Eggman's Amusement Park, which we see from the in-game levels aren't that big. Plus look at the chain beam binding the amusement park to Earth, it ain't that thicc at all, and yet it is visible in a shot where the planets are seem.
They aren't planet sized anywhere you slice it.
They aren't planet sized anywhere you slice it.
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Riders having a weird setting doesn't discredit canonicity whatsoever. The Lost Hex appears up in the sky in a single Sonic game out of nowhere without context, but that game is just as canon as the rest of them. Even then, there's multiple Riders titles tying into each other so it's not as if it's a one-and-done.
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Just saying, black holes only ignore durability at the center. Anything else is fair game.
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Barring Asteroid Coaster, the planets dwarf the buildings of Eggman's amusement park.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Okay, I don't know whether or not Sonic Riders is canon, and yes, Sonic's canon is quite loose; but that doesn't quite mean spin-offs can't be canon. However, I do agree with Matt on the rest that the black hole feats are far too iffy.
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Maverick, the size of the amusement park is not the hill you want to die on. You can outright scale the size of the things with pixel scaling and they never are planet sized. You are objectively incorrect in claiming each one is Earth-sized.
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The scan only says the full Space Station is planet sized, not any of the individual planets. But the Individual planets are definitely small; a lot smaller than Earth. Then again, pixel scaling isn't always 100% accurate given the graphics designer isn't always 100% focused. Or first priority is making the game playable rather than every scaling being scientifically accurate.
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The blue and green planets in the left/right hand corners are evidently much larger than the Amusement park's buildings, even if the bottom ones are quite small (Asteroid Coaster is just an asteroid field and Sweet Mountain seems artificial).
It's nearly 2 am where I'm at so I'll get back to this in a bit.
It's nearly 2 am where I'm at so I'll get back to this in a bit.
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The Black Hole feat from ABIS was also rejected, but at least the other three feats are a bit more concrete. Not saying they're grounded, but they at least make sense. I already gave my input against them, but I want to here Matt's thoughts about the Continent lifting Calc.
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(Just kidding I'm neutral... Can be swayed either way... Leaning on agreeing though)
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Upgrades for reasons above.
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I legitimately don't see what would argue this upgrade. I haven't read this (multi-hundred post) thread to see the arguments against it yet, but for now I'll express my agreement.
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Hey everyone, I was linked this thread on my wall last night. I'm just here to say I don't care if Sonic is 5-B or not I'm fine with either or.
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I obviously agree with this upgrade
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>No one scales to Abyss Characters visibly damage and kill it via Gravity Dives >Emerl destroying the planet is too vague Not really seeing as Gerald confirmed it
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late but i agree
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Count me in for agreement.
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So we're just gonna pretend these cities weren't a thing, huh?Matthew Schroeder said:
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Excluding Riders feels dumb and arbitrary to me. It carries the soul of Sonic the Hedgehog, from its visual style to cheese to needlessly complicated plots in the case of Zero Gravity.
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I mean unless it's contradicted by future games or it's own games then we should probably consider it canon
this isn't a Sonic 4 situation where it retcons all the Classic Sonic games after CD with Metal Sonic into being non canon
this isn't a Sonic 4 situation where it retcons all the Classic Sonic games after CD with Metal Sonic into being non canon
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Gun has muliple futuristic ships and robots, high-tech is normal in the Sonic universeMatthew Schroeder said:
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Air_Fleet
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Category:G.U.N._robots
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Where was it rejected? Last I checked, people were trying to say the game wasn't even canon.DarkDragonMedeus said:
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Who the hell didn't add me in the "Agreed" section?
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The OP
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When was it EVER stated that Sonic Riders is "non-canon" does anyone have any proof, statement, or whatnot to even substinate it's claim. Also, Sonic Riders is "non-canon" because of "futristic cities"? What? The Sonic Series has ALWAYS had futristic cities with advanced technology. What kind of argument IS that? Lmao.
Matthew. Perhaps you need to try harder? This is just bad, lol. You're kinda grasping for straws at this point. Also, no the planets in Sonic Colors are not "visibily tiny" either lol.
BTW:
According to Takashi Iizuka, the reason why "[Sonic Team] wanted Dr. Eggman's Incredible Interstellar Amusement Park in space because it's so huge. The scale of it is so ridiculously huge that no planet could really accommodate it. [They] wanted to really show that his amusement park is so big that it has to be in space."[1]
Matthew. Perhaps you need to try harder? This is just bad, lol. You're kinda grasping for straws at this point. Also, no the planets in Sonic Colors are not "visibily tiny" either lol.
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According to Takashi Iizuka, the reason why "[Sonic Team] wanted Dr. Eggman's Incredible Interstellar Amusement Park in space because it's so huge. The scale of it is so ridiculously huge that no planet could really accommodate it. [They] wanted to really show that his amusement park is so big that it has to be in space."[1]
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I gave you all a link, this was confirmed by Sonic Team. So, yes Eggman's Amusement park is actually really massive.
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When I'm done with work and pride parade BS, you all will get bodied verbally.
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Good luck, I'm already putting in the work xDVioletVoid100 said:
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@Violet It would be greatly appreciated if you don't target users like that
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Guys, chill. You guys don't want to be the reason this thread goes up in flames.
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Yo can we not try to start shit and debate this like rational adults?
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I agree
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