Denying regeneration from someone who has resistance to regeneration negation of the same level as Bugs.
Being resistant to plot hax does not make you resistant to hax concept.
I don't know.
A layered hax is a hax that works on someone who is resistant to that hax.
Oh I see now. Thank you for clarifying. Although just to be clear, we can all agree that Bugs Bunny isn’t resistant to Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation right?
Not sure how that matters considering Sonic has no concept manipulation.
He could come back either way since he has all the other types of immortality
You can't restrict an ability unless it has a "Possibly" or "Likely" rating (Unless it grants a new tier, like Bug's Dimensional Manip, hence why it was fine for you to do so).
You can, it just can't be added to the profiles. Which is why this thread is in fun & games, I presume
But for cobrar they are good
It's a fun and games topic, I don't think the intention was ever to add that to profiles.
I thought they could be added as long as it was an ability the character could consciously refuse to use
That's for if the ability is a separate tier, like Bug's Low 1-C shit. If it's separate and can be consciously restricted, you can. Or if it's an ability listed under "possibly" or "likely" conditionals, you can restrict regardless.
Alright then. I'll leave the matchup as is, since Sonic has some resistance to plot manipulation. I'm gonna vote Inconclusive for now
What about type 4 Immortality?
He can’t negate Type 3 because that would require him to have a Regen negator that would work on Bugs, and he does not.
Abilities like power mimicry only work to extents shown. Has it been shown to copy transformations and every ability they grant? If so, what transformations and what abilities?
Which is weird, I coulda swore he did...
If his RE has been shown to overcome said abilities before it should be fine. But it is NLF to assume it can overcome any ability just to be clear.
In addition to what I said, nullification of power only works in what is shown, and by the scans, it is only in Equipment/Machinery.
The abilities of gods like being able to mimic lightning bolts, able to replicate mind-control techniques after seeing it once, mimicking magic abilities, mimicking the powers of superheroes (there is a whole class for this in Looniversity), replicating other fictional beings like Beetlejuice, Chernabog's ability to summon the dead, etc. Basically, if he's seen it in a movie or up close once, he can do it.
Toons on his level (or maybe even below?) have shown to do this to Plot Manipulation which controlled the entirety of reality, so I think the assumption is valid.
Also works on magic and the like. There were other scans I believe, but they had yet to be added in this incarnation of the page.
Can I get links of those character's to see what abilities he copied?
The assumption that they can copy any ability including ones they haven't been shown to copy? If so, I disagree. Though abilities that are extensions of powers they copied maybe if the application isn't super complex or something.
No, I was referring to Reactive Evolution. If you can fight and become unaffected by the narrative itself on a 5-D level, then I think it wouldn't be baseless to assume that one could replicate this with other abilities.
If the narrative doesn't contain every possible ability, then it's not really based on anything though? Like for abilities shown in the verse? Sure, that's fine.
So Reactive Evolution just doesn't matter?
What? No. It does. Just saying that it can be used against abilities it's been shown to work against. Just that it shouldn't be able to work against powers never demonstrated in the verse. I'm sure numerous of Sonic's abilities have been demonstrated in Looney Tunes at some point.
I guess that's fair. It is basically "random abilities" the series.
