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learnt via experience:
things don't work that way with BC, Sonic, Fate, Kingdom Hearts and Megaten series lmao
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The Batter fights another Zone Guardian (Sonic the Hedgehog vs The Batter) (3-0-0)
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things don't work that way with BC, Sonic, Fate, Kingdom Hearts and Megaten series lmao
GlaceonGamez471
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Blue Blur speeds by FRA
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Now I'm unironically considering finding opponents just to see if I can get a loss on Sonic's page that isn't just an alternate Sonic
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I hope you don't try doing that tho. That sounds like farming for a loss out of spite...
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Is it spite if both opponents have valid win conditions though
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Can someone tell me how Power Nullification would work on Base Sonic? I get that it might stop chaos control but I don't really know if him spin dashing counts as a "power". Apparently this key of Sonic doesn't resist Power Nullification so I was thinking Batter could have a counter to his BFR
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Spin dash isn't a power
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Alright, thought so. What about things like Sonic Heal?
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He is just vibrating at high speed to heal
GlaceonGamez471
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Sonic Heal came from Battle, 4-C Sonic doesn't have it
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If Sonic just always amps to blitz to a ginormous degree to the point that the Batter can't even see him, isn't this a stomp? He could literally take out all four of them before they even realize he's even began to move that fast
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I agree s'well
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That's why I was thinking about giving him prior knowledge. Also, the spindash isn't going to one shot all four of them. They can also heal and resurrect each other or blind/poison Sonic before he does that since the spin dash should take about a second to charge up
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He can curve its path so it definitely could if he angles it right. Poison is over-time, blindness is the only possible way to maybe take him out but that's pretty unlikely given the limited range.
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You can change your direction a bit mid-spindash in Sonic games. Adventure comes to mind.
Yeah but killing Sonic over the course of a few minutes isn't really relevant if he can kill them all in a millisecond at any time he desires
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Will he really kill them that quickly even if it won't one shot and they can heal/resurrect?
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Sonic has Insane will power and pain tolerance, He can last more than a few minutes
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In the face of blitzing speeds, Ain't no way
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That calc was removed for some reason
Okay I was trying to find out what the Attack Potency gap is. Is this saying Sonic should be High 4-C?
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Do you have a clip or something of spindash homing in on multiple people multiple times? I just want to be sure
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There is a clip in the 346x amp calc
GlaceonGamez471
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Not removed, just hasn't been applied
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So if Sonic's High 4-C then this matchup can't work and he should be removed from 4-C in strongest characters for each tier
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Sonic prism clip shows Sonic and CO getting manhandled by the robots, When Sonic pulls the homing attack, He straight up One shot (I think) and Blitz every robot without them being capable of reacting
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Does that specifically mean he's moving 346x faster though? I'm sure that he could've been moving at speeds slower than that to blitz somebody. Also if they were getting beat up simply because they didn't know how to spin dash, wouldn't that just make their tier higher with spin dashes? Were they completely incapable of harming the robots before they learned the spin dash?
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Don't ask me that, Ask the person who made the calc O-O
Also they knew how to spin dash, They just didn't use it, And yes they were incapable of harming them before pulling the homing attack
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Fair enough
They knew? Then why did Sonic say "you need to learn how to spin dash" with Knuckles responding with "spin dash?"? That kind of implies they didn't know
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My bad, Only Sonic knew, I kinda forgot the entire scene
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Hasn't that calculation been there for months though? Guess I'd better go ask someone to close this
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I can do that if you want
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I'll ask for it to be closed when the High 4-C thing gets applied. Let's wait for now
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