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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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Oliver_de_jesus
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Wasn't that in the Sonic movie?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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No that wasn't from the Sonic movie. At least not the live action oneWasn't that in the Sonic movie?
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Pretty sure that’s from Archie.
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But it says that on the Master Emeralds profile which only covers the games
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Then I don’t know. Wasn’t me who added that.
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Knuckles' Sonic Channel Profile I think
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Do we have the scan?
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ナックルズ
豪快パワフルハリモグラ。 空に浮かぶ島「エンジェルアイランド」で独り理由も知らずマスターエメラルドと呼ばれる巨大な宝石を護って暮らしている。それはナックルズ族の宿命であり、現在ではマスターエメラルドをコントロールできる唯一の存在である。 ...
sonic.sega.jp
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Ok. If we don't have the scan on the profile, then we probably should add it
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Want to start reading sonic shit heard the recent shit has been good(and I'm interested in a charcater) and I've yet to actually read literally anything sonic so where should I start and go on from
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The IDW comics are pretty alright.
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Pretty sure those are what I should be reading, is there like a reading order tho?
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Wanted to ask about Maginaryworld, should the cosmology in dream world universes be fully 1-1 with real cosmology? I know it’s stated that dreams intersect with reality, but when you see constellations inside the fourth dimension they’re obviously a lot smaller than real life constellations, and maybe correlates with how dreamers don’t always perceive the universe exactly as it truly is in scope and functionality.
But then there’s also real stars and wormholes and black holes, and it gives kind of mixed messages
But then there’s also real stars and wormholes and black holes, and it gives kind of mixed messages
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Yes
Except nothing indicates dreams are different sizes in Maginaryworld anywhere within Shuffle. A no-name chao can have galactic battles in its dreams, you don't need to grasp the full extent of the universe for your dream to be universal in size.
Further proving my point.
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It was less referring to the dreams having universal size, and more referring to the possibility that elements contained within those universe sized dreams might not be to scale with reality. Like, the possibility of stars in the background actually being very tiny when viewed up close (such as the horoscope constellations in 4th dimension space)
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Oh, now I see. I think that takes an equal amount of assumptions. This feels more like author's intent vs technical limitations of a dated 90s game
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I mean, even modern games just use sprites (2-D art) of stars pasted around/near the inner surface of a very large sphere (Which is used for the background) to represent stars, realistic stars are asking for an obscene size that consumes a ton of dev complications (like having to deal with significant scales) for no real gain.
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I suppose that’s true.
The constellations are the only thing that would suggest size variance of objects within the dream worlds at the moment, unless I’m missing something, so for now I’ll err on the side of it being okay. Still, for me it was sort of important to be sure that the universes from dream worlds were comparable to normal ones.
The constellations are the only thing that would suggest size variance of objects within the dream worlds at the moment, unless I’m missing something, so for now I’ll err on the side of it being okay. Still, for me it was sort of important to be sure that the universes from dream worlds were comparable to normal ones.
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Here:
Dreamcast Magazine (USA) : SEGA : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
GOOOOOD SHIT!
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Dreamcast Magazine (USA) : SEGA : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
GOOOOOD SHIT!
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Considering it says Maginary Whirl amongst other stuff for the name of Maginaryworld, I'd say it calls into question if the info is super accurate for an early unreleased model of the game / story, even going by it being a review by a magazine endorsed by Sega.
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Out of curiosity, is the line Eggman says about Solaris destroying dimensions casually in the Japanese version too.
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Yeah, he says he can “literally devour dimensions” in JP.
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Okay, thanks.
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I did talk to some people who pointed out that whenever they say alternate timeline in the Japanese it’s more like, alternate time axis, or alternate points in time, rather than alternate dimensions (aka jikanjiku vs heiko jigen).
Also, they never actually say outright that Solaris would destroy all dimensions, so maybe that part should be edited in his page.
Also, they never actually say outright that Solaris would destroy all dimensions, so maybe that part should be edited in his page.
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“His plan is to consume EVERY timeline and annihilate the meaning of time itself”
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Yeah I translated it myself and got a lot of things like “different time axis/timeline” and “all timelines and prospects”. (But that was in Google Translate so idk how reliable it is).
But they don’t actually say “all dimensions”, I guess that’s implied with the whole “all timelines being destroyed and the meaning of time being annihilated”, but the link on Solaris’s page combined with the accompanying text is still kind of misleading, imo.
And, apparently timeline in Japanese is different contextually from the West, in that it refers to more of a series of events in a focused moment in time, and that the words for alternate space-time or alternate dimension (like heiko jiku) aren’t used.
But they don’t actually say “all dimensions”, I guess that’s implied with the whole “all timelines being destroyed and the meaning of time being annihilated”, but the link on Solaris’s page combined with the accompanying text is still kind of misleading, imo.
And, apparently timeline in Japanese is different contextually from the West, in that it refers to more of a series of events in a focused moment in time, and that the words for alternate space-time or alternate dimension (like heiko jiku) aren’t used.
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I'm going to be real with you chief those people sound like nothing more than wilfully contrarian "Sonic fans" judging by the past several posts you keep making about them (didn't we address these Solaris points multiple times in the past?), cliff-notes version they're entitled to their opinions
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Well, if it’s true that jikanjiku in this case moreso refers to specific time points in the original context, instead of the separate dimensional areas western people associate with the word timeline.
That might damper Solaris’s potential.
At the very least I feel like rewording Solaris’s AP description is necessary, changing from “all dimensions” back to something about how he can casually destroy dimensions.
That might damper Solaris’s potential.
At the very least I feel like rewording Solaris’s AP description is necessary, changing from “all dimensions” back to something about how he can casually destroy dimensions.
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Solaris was pretty blatantly going to destroy the entire cosmology. No need to argue over semantics.
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How do we know that, though.
Solaris was just said to be destroying all jikanjiku and prospects, with jikanjiku having two interpretations, one being a finite sequence of events inside a larger sequence of events, and the other referring to the entire time sequence. Then he says that Solaris can destroy dimensions, but doesn’t specify all dimensions.
Solaris was just said to be destroying all jikanjiku and prospects, with jikanjiku having two interpretations, one being a finite sequence of events inside a larger sequence of events, and the other referring to the entire time sequence. Then he says that Solaris can destroy dimensions, but doesn’t specify all dimensions.
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Well which makes more sense? Is Solaris destroying timelines as in space-time continuums or is he destroying sequences of events? Pretty much speaks for itself.
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