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No. I don't have access to Netflix,Have you actually seen the ending?
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No. I don't have access to Netflix,Have you actually seen the ending?
If the gateway leads to the original universe before it got fractured into shatterspaces, then why are the other shatterspaces and the characters associated with them still there when it manifests itself? My interpretation goes with what we see in the show itself. We don't need to extrapolate anything since we have all the info we need. Your interpretation assumes that the Paradox Prism has time manipulation never showcased anywhere else, that absolutely everyone is just fine with the shatterspaces counterparts being wiped from existance, and that the deal they made with each other at the end was pointless.what happened is:
after the paradox prism was complete,the gateway that leads to the main universe appers again,and when shadow and sonic travels to it,sonic is sent a few seconds before when he almost breaks the paradox prism,but this time,he does not break it,and shadow leaves with the paradox prism using chaos control.
so it means that yes,everything was redone.
Because the show is stupid and doesn't care enough to tie up those sorts of questions. "Sonic saved the day, shut up and be happy and don't you dare ask questions."If the gateway leads to the original universe before it got fractured into shatterspaces, then why are the other shatterspaces and the characters associated with them still there when it manifests itself?
This doesn't make any sense. Sonic was returned to Ghost Hill, which is why his color palette was literally that of his Ghosted friends and why the entryway was turning green when Sonic was drawing near. There was no "new shatterspace", that was the original universe returning after Sonic gave his energy to complete the Paradox Prism.All the Paradox Prism did was create a new shatterspace for the prism to be stored and for Sonic and Shadow to resume thier lives in. This is what is explicitely shown to us. Everything else is headcanon until further confirmation.
The OG universe returned in the form of what is essentially a new shatterspace though (or a re-purposed ghost hill). Otherwise, the other shatterspaces would've fused back into this one.This doesn't make any sense. Sonic was returned to Ghost Hill, which is why his color palette was literally that of his Ghosted friends and why the entryway was turning green when Sonic was drawing near. There was no "new shatterspace", that was the original universe returning after Sonic gave his energy to complete the Paradox Prism.
but how is there another paradox prism if there was not ''undoing''there cannot be two paradox prismThe OG universe returned in the form of what is essentially a new shatterspace though (or a re-purposed ghost hill). Otherwise, the other shatterspaces would've fused back into this one.
There isn't. The one and only paradox prism just sat inside this shatterspace, since it is meant to reflect the original universe.but how is there another paradox prism if there was not ''undoing''there cannot be two paradox prism
you make no sense at allThere isn't. The one and only paradox prism just sat inside this shatterspace, since it is meant to reflect the original universe.
amigo,you are ignoring everything just to fell your headcanon,is not hardBasically, what I'm saying is that why would the other shatterspaces be gone when there is no evidence that they are, and the events of the main Sonic crew take place in thier own shatterspace as of the end of the show?
Elaborateamigo,you are ignoring everything just to fell your headcanon,is not hard
Sonic fans finally learning how working for an established IP works (Excet they learn this every week and by the next wekk they forget it).
that is just a possibility,that is not even a thing that can be say is valid.To be fair, maybe the original drafts were even WORSE than what we got, and Sega tried to make them more "faithful" to Sonic. I still wouldn't trust Pontaff to write a Sonic story.
I wanna avoid theusual "Peak Sonic is Black Knight Sonic" response but what in particular makes you say that? Would you say it feels realest to the character, or...?Imma be real, peak Sonic is Worlds Collide through issue 290.
Other than the fact that I grew up on it, I think he balances being upbeat and carefree while also having emotions, he’s shown to be a flawed hero as in the case of the Werehog, but he always keeps going, and I think he has the funniest insults of any incarnation. Black Knight is still peak tho, so peak that Sega was afraid of Jason Griffith becoming too peak.I wanna avoid the "Peak Sonic is Black Knight" but what in particular makes you say that? Would you say it feels realest to the character, or...?
Fair enough.Other than the fact that I grew up on it, I think he balances being upbeat and carefree while also having emotions, he’s shown to be a flawed hero as in the case of the Werehog, but he always keeps going, and I think he has the funniest insults of any incarnation.
Will forever remain one of the biggest robberies of the franchise. ENG Sonic could've had his own Jun'ichi.Black Knight is still peak tho, so peak that Sega was afraid of Jason Griffith becoming too peak.
Technically right now, if somebody made a CRT to cover all the ramifications that it implies. And since that seems like it might be me (R.I.P. Archie fanbase), it'll take a long time to get to with all the revisions I have planned for you guys involving the games first.Edit: Also, when can we use the games for Post-SGW Sonic?
I can help do it, I have stuff for all the games referenced. I think they are:Technically right now, if somebody made a CRT to cover all the ramifications that it implies. And since that seems like it might be me (R.I.P. Archie fanbase), it'll take a long time to get to with all the revisions I have planned for you guys involving the games first.
Wow, that was actually pretty cool of you to do. Don't forget Lost World also somehow happened out of order iirc, the Zeti appear.I can help do it, I have stuff for all the games referenced. I think they are:
Oh, I forgot about that convo I'm so sorry lmao. As long as you formulate a CRT on it with some good ol' formatting and hyperlinking the relevant clips, you could probably make a push for it.Edit: But before that, I wanna upgrade Sonic X to large planet level.
Ian Flynn stated that Lost World happened in the near future.Wow, that was actually pretty cool of you to do. Don't forget Lost World also somehow happened out of order iirc, the Zeti appear.
Would the fight itself be enough for the justification?Oh, I forgot about that convo I'm so sorry lmao. As long as you formulate a CRT on it with some good ol' formatting and hyperlinking the relevant clips, you could probably make a push for it.
I'd probably go for "At least [X], possibly/likely [Y]" though, but that's just me
We do see Cubot and Orbot, so it must be well past Shadow The Hedgehog.Advance 3 happens after Shadow's Game, it is in fact the very last game in the Adventure era's timeline, battle also happens after Shadow's game
Sonic fans finally learning how working for an established IP works (Excet they learn this every week and by the next wekk they forget it).
What's AE?Would the Chaos Force and those one with it possess Enhanced Type 1 AE due to encompassing everything including dreams/4 Dimensional Space/Maginaryworld?
Abstract ExistenceWhat's AE?
you know everything can happen in just a day in the sonic world?I don't think there's anything unrelated to personality issues with Prime in the end of it. Regarding memories, this is the same series we got the "They had amnesia" to explain similar situations before, not every character will recall every detail even if it makes sense. And in some case, the odd nature of something happening might still be felt even if it's not something new.
I can't even tell how many times I have seen someone say "It's the first time x happens" or "I'm surprised that happened" when in actuality I remember it's not the first time, even for them. If Sonic would act like that or not, it's a personality problem that as I mentioned before, I'm not taking into consideration.
In fact, even the Orbot and Cubort thing isn't an absolute problem as people are implying to be. Like yes, something looking like a Orbot prototype appears in Sonic Unleashed and their debut is in Sonic Colors, and yet Metal Sonic is supposed to predate basically all sonic copies in the classic era even with the original staff calling out how that made no sense.
As far as we know, Eggman might have created Orbot and Cubot while he was a toddler, he put them in the warehouse, got them back for Prime, put them back in the warehouse, used an early prototype during Unleashed because he wanted to, and got them back during Colors (Which IIRC isn't that far off how they are introduced in Archie, Eggman just forgot he made them and ended up stepping in them).
That doesn't feel good, but isn't more far fetched than things that are already accepted in this series (Or even more every time Ian made a joke explanation using a similar structure). That isn't nice, but isn't really a contradiction considering all possibilities.
I think that Prime has far more sure contradictions that mentioning stuff that can be easily explained is unnecessary. But hey, not that unusual for the Sonic fandom not accepting Dream Team is after Frontiers because Sage isn't there and "The team is back together when they were supposed to be apart".
Look, I know this is literally my first post in the thread so this PROBABLY isn't the best way to jump in, but don't get me STARTED on those guys. Like, there's this one guy on Twitter who keeps spreading outright misinformation about Flynn just to make him look bad, while also propping up Ken ******* Penders as the pinnacle of the franchise. It's... legitimately draining to deal with.Don't show this post because it steps in the way of people needing a reason to hate Ian Flynn for creating Sonic the hedgehog
is not possibleAnyway, with that out of the way... would it make sense for Prime to take place before Forces? I saw a theory that the Phantom Ruby and Paradox Prism are related somehow, and I can KINDA see it, but I only THINK I understand Sonic lore: I can't quite say I really KNOW it.
Prime taking place before Forces, or the Phantom Ruby and Paradox Prism being related?is not possible