DivineAura44
He/Him- 5,216
- 3,391
Real, I concede.
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Real, I concede.
I voted Inco tooUpdated score to my knowledge is
0 - Goku
5 - Ben (DivineAura44, Lynieryz, OMNIVERSAL-KING, MaverickZeroX, Apollonir.Scale)
1 - Inconclusive (Reiner04)
SorryI voted Inco too
I posted a vote count to make it easier.Bro the last time i saw this thread there was only one page lmao, i love these types of thread
I will start reading the comments soon, i´m a bit busy now
Hell former voted for BenUpdated score to my knowledge is
0 - Goku
5 - Ben (DivineAura44, Lynieryz, OMNIVERSAL-KING, MaverickZeroX, Apollonir.Scale)
3 - Inconclusive (Reiner04, Fezzih_007, Killerdrone123)
Thanks, didn't see that.Hell former voted for Ben
This guy seeks chaos and end of all life. Best him boys.Bro the last time i saw this thread there was only one page lmao, i love these types of thread
I will start reading the comments soon, i´m a bit busy now
This guy seeks chaos and end of all life.
There are things beyond the grasp of chaos and reasons, seek them. There's nothing in this world or any other beyond it.
This is a Goku match, it will obviously be chaotic
Acausality Type 5 be like:There are things beyond the grasp of chaos and reasons, seek them. There's nothing in this world or any other beyond it.
I thought that it maybe worked that way but i wasn't surenot exactly how that works
on his profile he only resists temps of up to 248 F (about 120 C), so anything hotter will burn him
This makes 7 votes for Ben, grace has started.voting ben
Not really, since:This makes 7 votes for Ben, grace has started.
The winner will be determined by the side having better constructive arguments, rather than one word/one sentence votes, which will be disregarded. However, one word/one sentence votes agreeing with another member's reasoning will be accepted as valid votes.
What's your point?Not really, since:
voting ben
Is pretty obvious what i mean, he only said, "voting Ben" which is a one sentence vote, which would be disregarded.What's your point?
Did you read the whole thing you just sent?Is pretty obvious what i mean, he only said, "voting Ben" which is a one sentence vote, which would be disregarded.
However, one word/one sentence votes agreeing with another member's reasoning will be accepted as valid votes.
Why asking obvious questions, yeah i did.Did you read the whole thing you just sent?
His vote would fall under the "agreeing with another members reasoning" part.Why asking obvious questions, yeah i did.
Why?His vote would fall under the "agreeing with another members reasoning" part.
I hate youIncon FRA
Default assumptionWhy?
CountedIncon FRA
Nah.Default assumption
Well, Goku can pretty much one-shot all Ben aliens right away.What are the wincons for both?
But Goku can counter some of them:Swampfire has Sleep Manip gas that he can expell from his palms and low-high regen.
Wildvine also has sleep manip and mid regen.
Pesky Dust also has sleep manip but he has to get close which would be more dangerous than for swampfire or wildvine.
Feedback has 2-A/1-B energy absorbtion so he can nullify most of gokus ki based attacks
The Omnitrix usually scans new DNA regardless of Ben wants it to although he usually doesnt because most of the time it disables transformations briefly but thats inconsistent since there are multiple occasions of aliens being scanned very quickly and some occasions of new DNA being scanned over an entire episode but Ben would at best turn into a Saiyan Saga strength Saiyan unless Broly isnt a mutant, then he would be more like Broly.
Amphibian is similar to ghost freak in that he can go intangible, fly, he can also read minds and paralyze people. He can also turn into electricity but that is not the same as his intangibility.
Big Chill can also go intangible.
Goku has prior knowledge of Clockwork, Ghostfreak, and Toepick but speed is equalized and Goku wont know who Ben is going to use next out of all his options so its still possible to get them into the fight and hax him. Or just turn into Amphibian go intangible and transform into one of those 3. Or tank melee hits with Swampfire because of Regen and do the same thing.
Whampire has projectiles that let him fully mind control anyone it attaches it.
Gutrot could make a cloud sleep gas or some other lethal gas.
NRG is made of pure energy/radiation and heat to the point that just beating near him is deadly and has limited intangibility but gokus profile says he is highly resistant to radiation and harsh temperatures so that probably wouldn't work.
Echo-Echo can theoretically clone himself an infinite number of times or as much as he needs to. These clones are not physically synced and can die and get hurt without effecting the other clones, Ben also keeps a spare Echo-Echo clone sleeping in his car trunk just in case he dies. All these clones can also turn into individual Bens or other aliens if he wants to, and create an army of some of his most useful aliens for this scenario.
So i think is Inco;Goku can just dodge, or put a energy barrier so the Gas don't affect him
That really not gonna help if Goku destroy his entire body with his 2-C AP.
Cell have the same level of regenaration, and Gohan could kill him, and Goku is stronger than him.
Same above.
Really, not stopping Goku from One-Shotinh then.
He don't need to punch them, he can send a air attack on him.
Ok, then he gets screwed in CqC.
Even if he became like Broly, Goku would still win with Super Saiyans transformations.
True, Goku only option would be to keep dodging.
Yes,
Yeah, but Goku can increase his speed with Super Saiyan. Up to 50x or 2500x with Blue.
True.
I mean, if he tries, he just gonna get destroy them.
Goku can also One-shot him or dodge the projectiles.
Goku can avoid that, and one-shot him.
True.
If he does that, Goku only option would be to use a AoE attack to destroy all of them before they do anything else.
He only have prior knowlegde of 3 aliens, not the one who can put him to sleep.Hmmm even if Goku has prior knowledge.
How exactly he gonna do that, with speed equal trought?Ben has Master Control, meaning he can simply change to an alien very quickly in mere seconds and prob put Goku to sleep before putting up an ki barrier in time.
CountedIncon FRA
If Ben is aware of the AP gap. He'll know to restort into just putting Goku to sleep quickly and he is an strategist. Even as an ten-year old, Ben can quickly change alien in mere seconds in a single thought when avoiding Vilgax and Kevin at the same time whom both should be around the same speed as him too.He only have prior knowlegde of 3 aliens, not the one who can put him to sleep.
How exactly he gonna do that, with speed equal trought?
It is in Character to Ben switch between aliens?If Ben is aware of the AP gap. He'll know to restort into just putting Goku to sleep quickly and he is an strategist. Even at an ten-year old, Ben can quickly change alien in mere seconds when avoiding Vilgax and Kevin at the same time whom both should be around the same speed as him too.
So Ben can start off with an alien which would led Goku to try to one-shot him via rushing up to punch him. Only for Ben to quickly change to either Swampfire or Pesky Dust quickly once Goku gets close enough and put him to sleep that way.
When the situation calls for it. Yes. Especially if Ben knows Goku could easily blow him up with the AP Gap.It is in Character to Ben switch between aliens?
Also, he maybe choose a Alien that Goku has prior knowledge about
When the situation calls for it. Yes. Especially if Ben knows Goku could easily blow him up with the AP Gap.
I mean, he doesn't knows that Goku has prior knowledge on some of his aliensBen should know what Alien he needs to turn into with Master Control.
I know that.If Ben is aware of the AP gap. He'll know to restort into just putting Goku to sleep quickly and he is an strategist.
I also know that. That really not what i asked.Even as an ten-year old, Ben can quickly change alien in mere seconds in a single thought when avoiding Vilgax and Kevin at the same time whom both should be around the same speed as him too.
Or you know, Goku can also use a Air Punch to knock ben out.So Ben can start off with an alien which would led Goku to try to one-shot him via rushing up to punch him.
I mean, if he does that, in this situation he would only ended up receiving a attack, and be knock out.Only for Ben to quickly change to either Swampfire or Pesky Dust quickly once Goku gets close enough and put him to sleep that way.
He doesn't but he doesn't need to.I remember this episode, It is Very good
Does he do that in OV?
I mean, he doesn't knows that Goku has prior knowledge on some of his aliens
Why wouldn't he? Sure, Goku isn't a big villain. But if Ben knows that he's getting one-shot if Goku punches him or anything like that. Ben may be a cocky dude but if he knows the stuff Goku pulls off is beyond his paygrade. I don't see why Ben wouldn't resort to using sleep maniputation.I know that.
I also know that. That really not what i asked.
Or you know, Goku can also use a Air Punch to knock ben out.
I mean, if he does that, in this situation he would only ended up receiving a attack, and be knock out.
And that, is assuming he would start with either of these aliens too. Even if he knows the AP difference, you can't know he would resort to them immediatly off the bat, he could use aliens.