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Some updates on One Punch-Man

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Anyway, he does not have an argument to refute the calculation and will only use his position in order to try to reject this, as the other members accepted, this can go.
 
That being said, I would like @Antvasima to look over the unaminously agreed upon changes we've made above and then we'll start changing profiles as necessary. You'll find them a few comments up Ant, I just wanted you to know about these changes, since some of them might be quite important. Let me know if you have any issues.

Once you've done so, let's start changing profiles @Qawsedf234.
 
If the Low 6-B calc is debunked what would Boros tiering look like?
Since I think everyone but Matthew is okay with 6-C Geryuganshoop, Boros would be "at least 6-C" in all three forms because we wouldn't be changing Geryuganshoop.

I however, still support the Low 6-B upgrade on the basis Usklaverei has provided. While there is a seeming limit in the scan Matthew posted, the city has no clear limit in the scan Usklaverei has posted. Since that calc has been accepted by a calc group member, I will hold it as valid.
 
Well, actually... Meteoric Burst and arguably Released should be "at least High 6-C, likely far higher" because Boros is a dragon or above at that point, right? He should scale to Orochi at least then.
 
Literally in all the scans that the city shows, you can see how huge it is, like:

here, here, here, here (the ship is small compared to the area affected by bullets), here it is very evident how big the city and the affected area are and here is where the new barracks were built over the entire area that it was destroyed, so yes, the city is huge.
Hmm. That is a good point. The scans are individually pretty vague but we do see big craters scattered several km, potentially dozens of km beyond the size of the ship. The area of affect of the ship is clearly quite huge. I will wait a while for Matthew to make further comments and anyone else to chime in.
 
Well, actually... Meteoric Burst and arguably Released should be "at least High 6-C, likely far higher" because Boros is a dragon or above at that point, right? He should scale to Orochi at least then.
The thing is that we don’t know which Boros form is the Above Dragon that ONE referred to.
 
I mean, Genos said Tatsumaki might solo the invaders herself
Genos also didn't know about Boros, nor could he have. I agree that having Meteoric Burst Boros massively below Tatsumaki and Psykorochi feels wrong. Not saying Tatsumaki can't be stronger, just that she shouldn't be about a thousand times stronger or whatever it would be.
 
There still is a huge gap between baseline High 6-A and upper High 6-A. The god tiers can still one shot or stomp the top tiers and still both be in High 6-A. I don’t see any issues with all of them being High 6-A.
 
There still is a huge gap between baseline High 6-A and upper High 6-A. The god tiers can still one shot or stomp the top tiers and still both be in High 6-A. I don’t see any issues with all of them being High 6-A.
Because if Boros’ ship doesn’t have High 6-A dura anymore, then there’s no reason for MB Boros to scale to High 6-A without CSRC. Qawsdef already said downscaling him from CSRC is a no-go, iirc.
 
There still is a huge gap between baseline High 6-A and upper High 6-A. The god tiers can still one shot or stomp the top tiers and still both be in High 6-A. I don’t see any issues with all of them being High 6-A.
Gotta say i also agree, 138 petatons is the bare minimum surface wiping can wield, not to mention that even if CSRC is all the energy Boros has released in a single blast, that doesn't mean his physicall strikes need to be billions of times weaker than it. Meteoric Burst is also a form that strains him immensely, is considered a trump card he used very briefly while cornered, and even assuming his punches only carry 1% of his total energy sum would still have it be on the Petatons.
 
Since it's a last resort move, not really. We have some profiles where death or ultra moves eclipse their normal tier by an entire number rating sometimes. The most we could reasonably add in my view is a longer description to the "Likely higher" rating to include the total energy pool stuff.
This was the response to if we can downscale MB Boros from CSRC, so...
 
I’m gonna be honest everything in one punch man was nice and consistent until someone re calced the moon jump so I think we should revisit that.
 
Meteoric Burst is also considered a trump card and is very exhausting to Boros, he exchanged a few blows with Saitama, kicked him to the moon and that already had him panting in exhaustion, Boros even calls it a " Trump card used for settling a fight quickly " and also says it places an immense burden and also shortens his lifespan.
If CSRC is 100% of his energy being released i think Meteoric Burst should at least be worth 1% of it.
 
Again, downscaling MB from CSRC was already discussed and rejected by a staff member.
 
I wouldn’t say Tatsumaki being > Boros is “inconsistent“, it would just be... the new “meta”.

Like. Jiren being stronger than Goku wasn’t “inconsistent”, it was just a new character who we never saw go all out, go all out, and thus ended up stronger as a lot of other characters.

You can bring up Awakened Garou and “scaling” and ONE’s statement but that wouldn’t matter because Tatsumaki and Garou never actually fought properly, and Garou just happened to show up when Tatsumaki was seconds away from passing out, which isn’t fair to scale anyone from.
 
?????????

The current moon jump calc is high 6-A
We stopped scaling the ship from it because most of the energy from the impact would be dispersed on the moon, the RKE the ship would tank from that jump would be in the megaton range.
So, yes, the moon jump is still High 6-A, but only Saitama scales to it.
 
I wouldn’t say Tatsumaki being > Boros is “inconsistent“, it would just be... the new “meta”.

Like. Jiren being stronger than Goku wasn’t “inconsistent”, it was just a new character who we never saw go all out, go all out, and thus ended up stronger as a lot of other characters.
Not the same. We saw that saitama was more impressed with boros’s power than tatsumaki’s and we still have the statement from One that it would be a close fight between full monster garou and boros. Boros is the only reason awakened Garou is High 6-A, so currently it would be very inconsistent to say tornado is stronger.
 
On the size of the city...

this page is unquantifiable and shows the edge of the city. this page is a lot better but it also shows the edge of the city with the cloud of smoke stopping after a while. this page is completely unquantifiable other than the city being larger than the ship. this shows the city is huge but there's no real parameter to get a size from it. Finally this is unquantifiable because it's not clear how far the destruction stretched, and if the roads were built around the rubble of the city or on top.

Even assuming that all of the roads in the last scan = the original city it's going to end up tiny because you can easily measure the size of a road going by how many cars can fit in it.
 
Not the same. We saw that saitama was more impressed with boros’s power than tatsumaki’s and we still have the statement from One that it would be a close fight between full monster garou and boros. Boros is the only reason awakened Garou is High 6-A, so currently it would be very inconsistent to say tornado is stronger.
Guys I'm fine with like Meteoric Burst Boros being High 6-A I'm not find with Released Boros but Released Boros is stronger than Orochi unarguably.
 
Saitama was impressed because Boros is a monster he was actually “fighting”, he wasn’t impressed for Tatsumaki because he did not see Tatsumaki as an enemy. Tatsumaki was also weakened, and Saitama even says “Ohh, that looks fun!” in response to seeing her powers. In the end, Saitama tells Genos that he’s not even sure if Boros is the strongest enemy he’s faced.

ONE’s statement doesn’t really matter because we dont actually know how Tatsumaki vs Garou could’ve gone.

Again, not inconsistent, just NEW. It’s not like we have seen where TATSUMAKI’s manga limits lay before this arc, and we still don’t have a good understanding of just how much wide scale damage she could cause if she went on a rampage, as she had to restrict herself still to avoid killing innocents.
 
I’m referring to the webcomic fight

Saitama had his regular ultra casual face on the whole time and made no comments about her powers at all unlike boros.
 
Saitama was impressed because Boros is a monster he was actually “fighting”, he wasn’t impressed for Tatsumaki because he did not see Tatsumaki as an enemy. Tatsumaki was also weakened, and Saitama even says “Ohh, that looks fun!” in response to seeing her powers. In the end, Saitama tells Genos that he’s not even sure if Boros is the strongest enemy he’s faced.
Boros is definitely the strongest monster Saitama faces every single source says this. Saitama doesn't say definitely because he doen't care.
 
Tatsumaki didn't interact with Boros, and was weakened both when AG appeared and when she fought Saitama in the webcomic, so we can't really use that as definitive proof she would get stomped by them at her 100%.
In the manga she got a massive power boost through Psykorochi, and how she and Psykos stand among Boros and Garou is a mistery.
 
Well, if you compare webcomic vs webcomic, Saitama was just as bored in his fight against Boros and never says anything of note about him either. We don’t do webcomic vs manga scaling anymore, correct?

Also, again, Saitama calls her powers “—looks like fun!” and she had a feat where she was able to push him back AFTER he braced against her, something Boros couldn’t do, while she was weakened, and also moved a truck out of the way of a rock Saitama deflected before Saitama could run and catch up to that rock. Although, of course, Saitama being Saitama he is a very poor measuring stick to use.

And the fact Saitama literally says to Genos “he’s MAYBE the strongest I’ve ever faced” blatantly throws it up in the air if Boros was actually the strongest. It’s questionable if Saitama even remembers him now.
 
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