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Yea, I think the rel thing is a bit iffy, although I'll wait to see the arguments of others first. If rel is gonna be ditched, then rip relativistic orochi and boros (plus psykorochi and tats)
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Unless I've missed something, the ship's overall durability remains High 6-A even with the potential downgrades. There's no disputing that it took the full force of the 44 petaton moon jump and didn't go down. The question is- did Meteoric Burst or Released do enough damage to the ship to scale to High 6-A as opposed to low 6-B? Because Low 6-B firepower can damage the ship, High 6-A damage will tilt it and possibly capsize it.Is there any way to calc the ship's dura from Saitama jumping on it?
Using his RKE maybe. According to the same artbook for Near-Light Boros, his frictionless aura remained with Saitama. Meaning he may have been capable of reaching similar speeds to Boros. But his calced speed of like 7% lightspeed gets you 7-B results.Is there any way to calc the ship's dura from Saitama jumping on it?
Matt and Damage's argument is that there's no reason for the impact on the ship to be the same as on the moon. Since what hit the ship was Saitama, rather than the force of his leg kick. If it was solely ship damage then his released form would scale.Unless I've missed something
Didn't release boros release (heh) a blast that covered a large portion of the ship, like we do see the top of the ship pretty messed up after the blast.Unless I've missed something, the ship's overall durability remains High 6-A even with the potential downgrades. There's no disputing that it took the full force of the 44 petaton moon jump and didn't go down. The question is- did Meteoric Burst or Released do enough damage to the ship to scale to High 6-A as opposed to low 6-B? Because Low 6-B firepower can damage the ship, High 6-A damage will tilt it and possibly capsize it.
OPM artbook for volumes 4-9 or somethingNear light boros comes from which book?
'' houldn’t go through '', this has already been accepted man and the calculation does not presuppose anything, it is evident with the lines of movement of Geryu's tentacle that he is moving along with the attack. If he needed to have made the full move before the attack came out, why would there be lines of motion indicating that his tentacle is in motion?Geryuganshoop’s new “relativistic movement speed” calc shouldn’t go through. The calc makes the assumption he’s actually moving his tentacles as fast as his the rocks AFTER they are thrown and have accelerated.
You can't pick half a statement and ignore the other half.This was not a random thing, he specified everything he was saying and in that case, you just ignore the thing about Tatsumaki.
This is entirely due to arbitrary reasons. The Geryu statement is a little more developed than most. It's two sentences rather than one. That's all there is to it. There's still nothing that backs it up.Also, I'm pretty sure that your speech didn't go that way and that has been raised before and discussed, so the thing about Saitama 5-B has been dropped, but Geryuganshoop's statement is different.
Can I, if half of a statement is correct and the rest is wrong, should I ignore the correct part just because the other is wrong? In this case, only the wrong part that was contradicted later, which is the case of the part about Tatsumaki, is discarded.You can't pick half a statement and ignore the other half.
What he said was his opinion, his impression of how strong Geryu was, and also that he doesn't know if that's what ONE thinks either.
She is much more developed, different from the others, she is very detailed and even explains the reason for being near lightspeed.This is entirely due to arbitrary reasons. The Geryu statement is a little more developed than most. It's two sentences rather than one. That's all there is to it. There's still nothing that backs it up.
No because of the point of the first half is to say that he thinks Geryu is stronger than Tatsumaki, which is injustifiable to actually argue. And then he finishes the statement by saying it's just his opinion and that he doesn't know what ONE thinks.Can I, if half of a statement is correct and the rest is wrong, should I ignore the correct part just because the other is wrong? In this case, only the wrong part that was contradicted later, which is the case of the part about Tatsumaki, is discarded.
But that title doesn't include Tatsumaki. He mentions Geryu calling himself that and that he assumes this meant he was above Tatsumaki.There is a difference, he mentions the reason that Geryuganshoop could be above Tatsumaki, but if this is contradicted in the work, it should only be discarded, however, the rest is him specifying about Geryuganshoop's ability to throw stones and the thing about him talking ''This is what I think'' was about Geryuganshoop being the greatest psychic in the universe.
Bumping thisWould it be possible to calc the feat on it's own without the sub light statement?
Agreed.It was a single statement, from someone who does not write the series, the characters, or determine who scales above eachother, simply giving his own headcanon on why he draws the way he draws certain actions, and then goes on to say that he doesn’t know what ONE actually thinks about and that this is just his opinion.
It’s no different than any other fan’s headcanon. Nothing, NOTHING supports his statement over the, what, 5 years since the statement was made? It’s a very, very shaky “proof” of anything. A statement with no backing, no justification that was made by someone who doesn’t write the series simply giving his headcanon.
OK, calm down buddy, it's true that Murata words don't hold the same weight as ONE's words, but they still hold more weight than ANYTHING that you guys ever sayI do agree that the relativistic Gery statement shouldn’t even be used.
It was a single statement, from someone who does not write the series, the characters, or determine who scales above eachother, simply giving his own headcanon on why he draws the way he draws certain actions, and then goes on to say that he doesn’t know what ONE actually thinks about and that this is just his opinion.
It’s no different than any other fan’s headcanon. Nothing, NOTHING supports his statement over the, what, 5 years since the statement was made? It’s a very, very shaky “proof” of anything. A statement with no backing, no justification that was made by someone who doesn’t write the series simply giving his headcanon.
Why? Boros is faster than Flash. The statement is also in a guidebook.So, the statement about Boros should also be removed, I don't care about that, downgrade everyone to MHS and it's done.
This guide wasn't even released as far as I know and it was done by Murata too, just like the Geryu thingWhy? Boros is faster than Flash. The statement is also in a guidebook.
it was both ONE and MurataThis guide wasn't even released as far as I know and it was done by Murata too, just like the Geryu thing
It was released and it's an actual official material. An official material is obviously more reliable than a twitch stream comment.This guide wasn't even released as far as I know and it was done by Murata too, just like the Geryu thing
Launched where? The thing is in the same place where the Murata redraws areIt was released and it's an actual official material. An official material is obviously more reliable than a twitch stream comment.
Does it specify wich form?Why? Boros is faster than Flash. The statement is also in a guidebook.
Does it specify wich form?
Meteoric Burst.Which form is faster than Flashy? And is that even confirmed outside of the moon kick??
This does not serve as a parameter, moreover, he made the same face for Geryuganshoop's attack and in the redraw of the fight against GenosDid Saitama fail to react, or was he just a little surprised but didn’t find the need to guard?
It’s not like Saitama had any trouble when he returned from the moon. Heck, he blitzed Boros with ease afterwards. We don’t know why he was surprised from Boros specifically.
The difference between Boros and Flashy, is at least Flashy managed to dodge Saitama’s attacks, something Boros never did. Heck, Orochi even dodged two attacks from Saitama, one from very close range.