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No? You asked for context, thats the feat in questionSo I assume by posting that video you are chosing to drop the claim that there's no conflict between a process of releasing energy and a process of withdrawing it?
What needs to be reconciled? It proves my point and proves that im rightSo how exactly do you plan on reconciling that statement with the displayed feat?
Yes, because Dust is a universal energy source. Doesnt matter that theyre two different processes as the energy used to perform both feats is the same energy, the only difference is application. The freezing feat was done by Weiss controlling the Ice Dust using her Aura, letting her utiliz its energy to freeze th water directly, whereas in the scene with th lancer she detonated it in its raw form to create an explosionYou posted the explosion feat but that's not where the 8-A comes from. It came from the calc that I posted of Weiss creating an ice structure to harm the mech.
That feat was done by freezing, and you're using that output to scale to the Dust canisters exploding.
These are two seperate processes. Each process is done using a completely different method of energy transferral.
Universal energy source isn't even an argument here because the two processes above are fundamentally different.
Yes freezing stuff its about dispersing heat/energy, however it is also true that for things like refrigerators need energy to generate cold, its not like they can work without electricity.I don't think you understand. An explosion releases energy, freezing takes away energy. Universal energy source argument would only work if both processes do the same thing.
If the energy source I use to move clouds is the same energy source I use to shoot spells at you it scales because both are an output of energy.
Freezing fundamentally can't scale to energy release because that's not what it does.
Chill boyo, we're gonna work with the fire dust feat from the Lancer fight instead to save everyone a collective headacheYes freezing stuff its about dispersing heat/energy, however it is also true that for things like refrigerators need energy to generate cold, its not like they can work without electricity.
Freezing objects (especially in a matter of seconds) does requid a lot of energy, unless you want to say that everyone who had Ice Manipulation are also able to erase energy.
But the energy required to do this is not linear with the cooling done. And you know, refrigerators use a chemical reaction that's not really equitable to nearly anything else (making a liquid become gas in a manner that causes it to remove heat from its surroundings, this specifically needing the compound refrigerant to be achieved).úYes freezing stuff its about dispersing heat/energy, however it is also true that for things like refrigerators need energy to generate cold, its not like they can work without electricity.
Freezing objects (especially in a matter of seconds) does requid a lot of energy, unless you want to say that everyone who had Ice Manipulation are also able to erase energy.
Im adjusting th calc now, i forgot to account for th ship bing blow the rocks rather than next to themWait, are you telling me she used the power of a small nuke to cause few meter wide pieces of rock to fall on her enemies?
Like who? Wokistan and Sir Ovens seem to be in quite heavy disagreement that the calc scales to anyone at all due to the different processes of energy usages: exploding vs freezing.I mean after discussion the people who were initially against it are now in agreement so no, they're staying 8-A with post-beacom being potentially upgraded to 8-B via the new calc
See, now that actually explains something.The discussion got continued in Discord, and they offered to calculated it via other methods.
SureIt's on Versus Central, and rather not make the URL publicly. But I can DM you it.
They did, which is why we decided to use the fire dust explosions from the same fight scene instead, which they both agreed with using instead of the ice feat and which still came out to 8-ALike who? Wokistan and Sir Ovens seem to be in quite heavy disagreement that the calc scales to anyone at all due to the different processes of energy usages: exploding vs freezing.
You mean the one that is 8-B that you posted? Or a different calc?They did, which is why we decided to use the fire dust explosions from the same fight scene instead, which they both agreed with using instead of the ice feat and which still came out to 8-A
The 8-B one yes, after taking the aforementioned multipliers into account the result is 600ish tons, solidly 8-A+You mean the one that is 8-B that you posted? Or a different calc?
Doesn’t that only come out to 14 tons or is my math wrong? What are you multiplying it by?The 8-B one yes, after taking the aforementioned multipliers into account the result is 600ish tons, solidly 8-A+
Yeah, I know that. But the value given above was 600+?By the dust canisters as there is fire dust inside those crates and one fire dust can did that 8-B feat. As fire dust is like gunpowder so if one can of it can do the 8-B feat then 13 is 8-A if that makes sense
But 14 tons times 13 is 185.913 tons
Weiss used 8 fireballs in that fight, each being 14 tons, putting the full canister at 112 tons for the total yield, multiplied by 5 = 560 tons, not 600 my mistakeDoesn’t that only come out to 14 tons or is my math wrong? What are you multiplying it by?
Makes sense to me.Weiss used 8 fireballs in that fight, each being 14 tons, putting the full canister at 112 tons for the total yield, multiplied by 5 = 560 tons, not 600 my mistake
an high quality juiceMakes sense to me.
Now who scales to the Queen Lancer? Other than Hazel who one shot it after hyper juicing?
Didn’t Weiss with her Knight summon or whatever destroy the QL. She would scales with her summonMakes sense to me.
Now who scales to the Queen Lancer? Other than Hazel who one shot it after hyper juicing?
True, that’s how she killed it in the first place, so that makes her knight scale and then Vernal one shot the Knight and then Raven scales from her.Didn’t Weiss with her Knight summon or whatever destroy the QL. She would scales with her summon
Why is CRT discussion being hidden behind Discord?The discussion got continued in Discord, and they offered to calculated it via other methods.