- 16,959
- 4,855
Glad this feat was remembered as I or someone else pointed it out before.
But yeah like Ploz said. This should be remade as a better formatted calc and submitted to be evaluated before jumping the gun.
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Glad this feat was remembered as I or someone else pointed it out before.
That's not a proper reason at all.Because that is dumb? Unless you can use the light you create in any productive way, it isn't worth mentioning. Saying that it is light manipulation just because someone can make their eyes glow is misleading and stupid. At best, you can mention on his profile something like "Can make his eyes glow", but again, mentioning something as insignificant and useless thing as that will just make the profile look dumb.
It isn't the sole reason, but I'll just engage on the hypothetical to prove a point.If that is the sole reason for such additions, they should be removed. Two wrongs don't make a right. Anri Sonohara can also make her eyes glow red. She does not get "light manipulation" lol.
Cool, that would still give him the ability. From what I remember, they made some sort of reference to it. Also, that could just signify his mastery over the ability (as well as Korra's) because the Lion Turtle did it with just one claw for a couple moments.That will only apply when he is energy bending. And even then, that was a one time thing for visual and dramatic purposes. We later see Aang do the same to Yakone and Korra do the same to Lin. Nothing of that sort happens ever again, only their eyes and pressure points glow.
That is a proper reason, yes.That's not a proper reason at all.
It is. We are not gonna bloat and clutter a profile with useless and misleading stuff like Light Manipulation when it is actually not Light Manipulation at all. This is just "Can make his eyes glow" which isn't worth noting. Linking it to Light Manipulation is also misleading.Last time I checked, indexing abilities was not about how productive or useful they are.
No, like I said, stuff like this will have to be removed from every profile that has it. Profile having misleading stuff added to them just to clutter and wank them is what is an oversight here, which needs to be fixed.That would just have to be added to the page through an ability revision.
No it won't and no it did not. Saying that him and Korra mastered it is a blatant assumption. This was a one-time outlier. Nothing else.Cool, that would still give him the ability. From what I remember, they made some sort of reference to it.
Your reasons for it being dumb aren't proper at all, so yes, it is by definition improper. And just saying something is dumb from a personal perspective without the right reasons cannot be used as a reason to reject it.That is a proper reason, yes.
You keep saying it's misleading, yet you've not actually explained what it is. Can you tell me what other ability matches emitting LIGHT from yourself other than Light Manipulation? This isn't even a matter of the profile. I'm legitimately baffled by this logic because it's like saying an apple isn't an apple.It is. We are not gonna bloat and clutter a profile with useless and misleading stuff like Light Manipulation when it is actually not Light Manipulation at all. This is just "Can make his eyes glow" which isn't worth noting. Linking it to Light Manipulation is also misleading.
How is it misleading though? Like you genuinely keep repeating, and your reasons are essentially a gloried "no". They are absolutely baseless and don't even make sense.No, like I said, stuff like this will have to be removed from every profile that has it. Profile having misleading stuff added to them just to clutter and wank them is what is an oversight here, which needs to be fixed.
Saying Aang mastered it is just an assumption? Aang is a Fully-Realized Avatar when he does that to Yakone. Not only that, he had like 28 years with the ability. He clearly got good at considering how quickly he did it to Yakone vs Ozai, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice this. How the hell would he not have mastery over it? Avatar State Korra does her major Energybending feats when she has her connection to Aang still. The Avatar State imbues you with the knowledge of your past lives, so she'd literally be doing it with the same proficiency he did. Remind me when we considered hax an outlier again?No it won't and no it did not. Saying that him and Korra mastered it is a blatant assumption. This was a one-time outlier. Nothing else.
There is literally nothing other than the Yangchen calc that needs discussed because most of it has been agreed upon. I'm going to argue this because I think the reasoning for it to not be considered is frankly dumb af.I think there's a lot of other stuff worth focusing here that you should put your energy in, than arguing for this insignificant bit lol.
The point is that it's an application of Light Manipulation. Whether it's "Light Manipulation" or "Light Generation," I don't particularly care. It just needs to be listed is all.Simply producing light is light generation, not manipulation. It can still be linked to the page, just text should be specific.
Imagine a person reading the page for stats, powers and abilities:After talking to a friend, I could possibly see the confusion here. I'm not saying having your eyes naturally glow is Light Manipulation. What I'm saying is Light Manipulation about this is the fact that they are controlling it to where their normal eyes are lit up through willing it. That's essentially what they're doing with the Avatar State.
Yet when I made the profile draft, literally nobody even gave this reaction when I linked it to them lol. You're exaggerating this beyond what it's worth.Imagine a person reading the page for stats, powers and abilities:
"Wind Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Water Manipulation, Earth Manipulation"
"Oh cool. Noice."
"Can make his eyes glow"
"Bruh wtf lmao"
If it's as pointless as you claim, then why are pushing so hard for it to not be accepted? I don't see how that makes the profile look dumb. I'm pretty sure nobody is going to disagree it.I don't know why you're pushing for something that is pointless to add on a profile and ultimately makes it look dumb. This is general practice and common sense. People don't get light manipulation just from being able to make their eyes glow a little bit. It is so limited in nature, that it doesn't even count as limited light manipulation.
And I've already explained how such extremely limited, insignificant and minor application of any broad ability isn't listed on profiles under the name of that ability and also provided examples of such profiles. The other reasoning also don't hold up.I've already explained this to you how it's Light Manipulation.
Not really, most of your "points" involved it just being dumb for the reactions it would get. The ability can clearly be clearly applied beyond just that as well because Aang's tattoos also glowed in his Avatar State. If it really irks you that much, DDM already proposed we just leave it at Light Generation. I'm fine with this compromise if adding such a minor thing is really irking you so heavily. Also, you provided one profile in which you barely gave any context behind it. That's not on the same level of credibility as the "multiple" you're trying to claim. The other reasoning is completely fine and has been resolved.And I've already explained how such extremely limited, insignificant and minor application of any broad ability isn't listed on profiles under the name of that ability and also provided examples of such profiles. The other reasoning also don't hold up.
Yes, Kuruk, Kyoshi, Roku, Aang, and Korra scaling are all fine if the calc is right. We should get DMUA's revised version reviewed, however.Yangchen moves clouds
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Made the yangchen thing to a blog post
Also should note, the result for Roku, Aang and Korra would be >>>> the result, because of the "combination of energy from past avatars" thing
Also, looks good.Also here's the Kyoshi healing thing
Depends on the context of the quote(s).with all these mountains/island feats do you think its safe to say that the guy in the novel calling the avatars "walking disasters" can be taken literally now?
Yes. Additionally, the scenes with Yangchen and Szeto are during Roku's explanation of the Avatar State. They would be AS only feats.ok lets go back to yanchens and the fire avatars feat... did they use AS or tap into it for it? cuz i dont remember their eyes glowing before doing it
Roku’s statement there shouldn’t be taken, the Avatar State isn’t a combination of their Past Lives energy but rather just being empowered directly by Raavas.Yangchen moves clouds
vsbattles.fandom.com
Made the yangchen thing to a blog post
Also should note, the result for Roku, Aang and Korra would be >>>> the result, because of the "combination of energy from past avatars" thing
I don't see why it shouldn't be taken. We literally see their eyes glowing before they perform these feats, and the whole flashback is about the Avatar State. It would be completely out of place to argue they just did those feats without it. Also, Roku's statements hold consistent Post-Korra retcons by the authors too. The Kyoshi novels say the exact same thing about it as well.Roku’s statement there shouldn’t be taken, the Avatar State isn’t a combination of their Past Lives energy but rather just being empowered directly by Raavas.
The past lives being connected are just a sub-ability since Raava connects them.
Probably not. We don't really have a direct means of scaling him like that. There's no scaling him to Sozin or anything like that either considering how effortlessly he beat him.question can we scale rokus city block water wave he used on his teacher to all "elite" water benders? he did it in base THO he was around alot of water