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Small MCU Spider-Man Revision

I'm still iffy on scaling Klaue's cannon to the Wakandan sonic spears, considering Klaue states here (00:24-00:38) that the actual weaponry in Wakanda makes his arm cannon (which was modified from Wakandan mining equipment) "look like a leaf blower".
 
Dinobot1996 said:
I'm still iffy on scaling Klaue's cannon to the Wakandan sonic spears, considering Klaue states here (00:24-00:38) that the actual weaponry in Wakanda makes his arm cannon (which was modified from Wakandan mining equipment) "look like a leaf blower".
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It should be somewhat comparable, maybe Klaue was talking about the more high-end stuff there.
 
KLOL506 said:
It should be somewhat comparable, maybe Klaue was talking about the more high-end stuff there.
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That might be the case. If we use this to scale characters, it might be appropriate to use 'At most 8-C', considering it's unclear exactly how closely Klaue's cannon compares to the Sonic Spears, and unsuited T'Challa technically didn't fully take Klaue's cannon blast head on as he used a podium to shield himself (Here at 1:40, granted, he likely still took a considerable amount of the blast considering how completely destroyed the podium was by the blast) and still needed a moment to get up afterwards.

As a note, it appears that the 8-C Agents of SHIELD character that Captain America was apparently stated to be superior to (and something that is also stated on the LS section of Cap's profile) is Deathlok. While figuring out the exact canon status of Agents of SHIELD is its own complex task that we'll probably need several months before we can properly assess, Deathlok's 8-C rating looks like it should probably be either changed or given extra clarification. Yes, he has a 8-C durability calc, (1.02732 tons) but that calc page notes he was badly burned and lost a leg from that explosion. He was in a weakened state, but it still seems like questionable scaling considering he was apparently weakened by being stabbed in the torso, which shouldn't affect the durability of his leg.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
That might be the case. If we use this to scale characters, it might be appropriate to use 'At most 8-C', considering it's unclear exactly how closely Klaue's cannon compares to the Sonic Spears, and unsuited T'Challa technically didn't fully take Klaue's cannon blast head on as he used a podium to shield himself (Here at 1:40, granted, he likely still took a considerable amount of the blast considering how completely destroyed the podium was by the blast) and still needed a moment to get up afterwards.

As a note, it appears that the 8-C Agents of SHIELD character that Captain America was apparently stated to be superior to (and something that is also stated on the LS section of Cap's profile) is Deathlok. While figuring out the exact canon status of Agents of SHIELD is its own complex task that we'll probably need several months before we can properly assess, Deathlok's 8-C rating looks like it should probably be either changed or given extra clarification. Yes, he has a 8-C durability calc, (1.02732 tons) but that calc page notes he was badly burned and lost a leg from that explosion. He was in a weakened state, but it still seems like questionable scaling considering he was apparently weakened by being stabbed in the torso, which shouldn't affect the durability of his leg.
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Not really complex
Agents of shield used to be Canon but got negged out of canon Like every netlix show
Simple shit
 
Dinobot1996 said:
That might be the case. If we use this to scale characters, it might be appropriate to use 'At most 8-C', considering it's unclear exactly how closely Klaue's cannon compares to the Sonic Spears, and unsuited T'Challa technically didn't fully take Klaue's cannon blast head on as he used a podium to shield himself (Here at 1:40, granted, he likely still took a considerable amount of the blast considering how completely destroyed the podium was by the blast) and still needed a moment to get up afterwards.

As a note, it appears that the 8-C Agents of SHIELD character that Captain America was apparently stated to be superior to (and something that is also stated on the LS section of Cap's profile) is Deathlok. While figuring out the exact canon status of Agents of SHIELD is its own complex task that we'll probably need several months before we can properly assess, Deathlok's 8-C rating looks like it should probably be either changed or given extra clarification. Yes, he has a 8-C durability calc, (1.02732 tons) but that calc page notes he was badly burned and lost a leg from that explosion. He was in a weakened state, but it still seems like questionable scaling considering he was apparently weakened by being stabbed in the torso, which shouldn't affect the durability of his leg.
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Also Tbh The calc is over 4 Times above baseline building level
If he was like Small building he wouldn't have survived at all
 
Dinobot1996 said:
That might be the case. If we use this to scale characters, it might be appropriate to use 'At most 8-C', considering it's unclear exactly how closely Klaue's cannon compares to the Sonic Spears, and unsuited T'Challa technically didn't fully take Klaue's cannon blast head on as he used a podium to shield himself (Here at 1:40, granted, he likely still took a considerable amount of the blast considering how completely destroyed the podium was by the blast) and still needed a moment to get up afterwards.

As a note, it appears that the 8-C Agents of SHIELD character that Captain America was apparently stated to be superior to (and something that is also stated on the LS section of Cap's profile) is Deathlok. While figuring out the exact canon status of Agents of SHIELD is its own complex task that we'll probably need several months before we can properly assess, Deathlok's 8-C rating looks like it should probably be either changed or given extra clarification. Yes, he has a 8-C durability calc, (1.02732 tons) but that calc page notes he was badly burned and lost a leg from that explosion. He was in a weakened state, but it still seems like questionable scaling considering he was apparently weakened by being stabbed in the torso, which shouldn't affect the durability of his leg.
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That calc is bunk because Deathlok was nowhere near the epicenter (He was a full arm's length away from it, meaning Inverse-square law would kick into action) and it's not a conventional explosion but rather some fuel tanks igniting, which is deflagration, not to mention Deathlok lost limbs to it.

As for LS, just scale Cap to Iron Man, both he and War Machine can lift M1 Abrams-esque tanks which on their own are easily above Class 100 in terms of mass. Cap downscales massively from Iron Man but in terms of LS Tony's got nothing on Steve, since Cap resorted to overpowering Iron Man via LS since his punches weren't doing much to harm the armor.
 
Also the 8-B calc for Iron Man for Sokovia is also questionable because 1) Iron Man was nowhere near the epicenter in which case distance-based inverse-square law formula applies and 2) Vibranium and its weird energy distribution properties kinda already make the calc even more complicated so IDK if that's even viable to use.

Which makes the down-scaling stuff for Cap a little bit more viable.
 
KLOL506 said:
Also the 8-B calc for Iron Man for Sokovia is also questionable because 1) Iron Man was nowhere near the epicenter in which case distance-based inverse-square law formula applies and 2) Vibranium and its weird energy distribution properties kinda already make the calc even more complicated so IDK if that's even viable to use.
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Oof. So it needs a recalc?
 
Dinobot1996 said:
That might be the case. If we use this to scale characters, it might be appropriate to use 'At most 8-C', considering it's unclear exactly how closely Klaue's cannon compares to the Sonic Spears, and unsuited T'Challa technically didn't fully take Klaue's cannon blast head on as he used a podium to shield himself (Here at 1:40, granted, he likely still took a considerable amount of the blast considering how completely destroyed the podium was by the blast) and still needed a moment to get up afterwards.

As a note, it appears that the 8-C Agents of SHIELD character that Captain America was apparently stated to be superior to (and something that is also stated on the LS section of Cap's profile) is Deathlok. While figuring out the exact canon status of Agents of SHIELD is its own complex task that we'll probably need several months before we can properly assess, Deathlok's 8-C rating looks like it should probably be either changed or given extra clarification. Yes, he has a 8-C durability calc, (1.02732 tons) but that calc page notes he was badly burned and lost a leg from that explosion. He was in a weakened state, but it still seems like questionable scaling considering he was apparently weakened by being stabbed in the torso, which shouldn't affect the durability of his leg.
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An At Most 8-C rating sounds fine to me.

Also didn't Spider-Man hold his own against Mysterio's drones which can straight-up destroy buildings?
 
Question. Are we sure it's a good idea to merge keys since his homemade suit doesn't have the same fancy gadgets the tech suit has?
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Down to High 8-C it is then oof
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It's not even that decently above High 8-C either, 10 gigajoules.

Meaning all the more reason for Cap to downscale from that massively.

Heck, Isaiah Bradley would scale above the Winter Soldier's Arm for tearing it in half.
 
I guess future armors would be somewhat above it, but yeah. I'd argue the mark 6 and beyond to be 8-A but I'll save that for next time
 
His armour are probably at least 2 times above since in cw is mk 45 compared to 6
Which is 39 mk above
But prolly headcanon so eh
 
KLOL506 said:
Also the 8-B calc for Iron Man for Sokovia is also questionable because 1) Iron Man was nowhere near the epicenter in which case distance-based inverse-square law formula applies and 2) Vibranium and its weird energy distribution properties kinda already make the calc even more complicated so IDK if that's even viable to use.

Which makes the down-scaling stuff for Cap a little bit more viable.
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Hm btw so even your recalc where you used sokvia full height is questionable ?
 
You should politely ask some staff on their walls for some input, hopefully they'll respond
 
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