Small MCU Spider-Man Revision

[Lonkitt]

Bump

 

[Lacku]

I agree with everything here, but something else that always bugged me about peters page was his stealth suit render, its overly big and kinda off, I uploaded two better renders called stealthsuitffh.png and stealthsuitffh2.png if you wanna make that part of the crt

 

[Lonkitt]

@Lacku Sure, why not. Makes the page overall better

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Are we gonna talk about the fact that the Iron Spider Key mentions taking hits from Thanos and Staggering him? Shouldn't we remove those as well since that's an even bigger Outlier?

 

[Lonkitt]

That isn't really the point of this thread, though I do think it should be removed. It doesn't even downscale to Spidey's rating

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Agree with the OP, but then again, I'm not an expert with MCU scaling or anything...

 

[Lonkitt]

Agree with the OP, but then again, I'm not an expert with MCU scaling or anything...

I hope I don't come off as bias, but I'd argue you don't need to be extremely knowledgeable of the scaling chain for the main purpose of this revision, which is essentially just saying that there's no difference stat wise between two keys

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

I hope I don't come off as bias, but I'd argue you don't need to be extremely knowledgeable of the scaling chain for the main purpose of this revision, which is essentially just saying that there's no difference stat wise between two keys

I know, I'm just saying I could potentially be missing something regarding the way the scaling functions. But, with the knowledge I do have and looking at the OP and other arguments, I agree.

 

[Dalesean027]

I know, I'm just saying I could potentially be missing something regarding the way the scaling functions. But, with the knowledge I do have and looking at the OP and other arguments, I agree.

Nah you're good this CRT is pretty straightforward so don't worry about the finer details

 

[chosen]

Shouldn't we remove those as well since that's an even bigger Outlier?

Why him stagger ING thanos and taking hits from him is an outlier

 

[Lonkitt]

Why him stagger ING thanos and taking hits from him is an outlier

Spider-Man isn't a 6-C...

 

[M3X_2.0]

Kinda neutral on the Crossbones and Cap scaling with Peter. Iirc Tony said if Cap wanted to take him down, he could.

 

[Bernkastelll]

What is fhe rreasin to scaling to bucky arm = outlier?

 

[Dalesean027]

Kinda neutral on the Crossbones and Cap scaling with Peter. Iirc Tony said if Cap wanted to take him down, he could.

He outskills Spider-Man that's really it

 

[M3X_2.0]

And Tony really said that Cap could easily beat Peter if he wanted. It's on Cap's profile. It's not about outskill, don't even know how you reached this conclusion.

 

[Dalesean027]

What is fhe rreasin to scaling to bucky arm = outlier?

Honestly don't know there's no reason for it be as such even if it was only to scale to LS but I'd say Peter is pretty consistently and blatantly above cap with his physicals

 

[M3X_2.0]

Nice headcanon. Cap is still above Peter.

 

[Dalesean027]

And Tony really said that Cap could easily beat Peter if he wanted. It's on Cap's profile. It's not about outskill, don't even know how you reached this conclusion.

Dude peter has better feats than cap they may be relative enough to damage each other but Cap's 9-A while peter has consistent 8-C feats

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Cap is literally stated to be above Spider Man tho? Iron Man even states Cap was holding back.

Plus Cap could still harm and even overpower Peter at times.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Doesn't matter if he has better feats, Cap would still scale above... because he is above Peter. Pretty sure Tony knows how strong Cap and Peter are, he made the comparasion. Cap is stronger than Peter, that's not debatable.

but Cap's 9-A while peter has consistent 8-C feats

Are you blind?

Building level (Can harm Black Panther, who could tank blasts capable of destroying tanks without his suit. Nearly comparable to Iron Man and Ultron. Defeated Spider-Man, and could have easily beaten him if he wanted to according to Iron Man. Fought against Red Skull, who can draw blood from him. Harmed Winter Soldier. Superior to Centipede soldiers who can blast open shipping containers. Can break reinforced glass with no trouble. Destroyed a jeep by throwing a bike at it. Harmed his past version, though he was eventually overpowered he was likely holding back. Destroyed part of a highway pillar by throwing Ultron into it. Can easily shatter Ultron Sentries)

 

[Dalesean027]

The literal only reason cap still has 8-C is because the revision has yet to be made to downgrade him as such like it was already agreed upon

 

[M3X_2.0]

Doubt.

 

[Dalesean027]

Doubt.

That's fine for you, you can continue to argue against something that's been agreed upon

 

[chosen]

Spider-Man isn't a 6-C...

1.Surviving hits and stuff like this would only be large Mountain.
2.That Doesn't answer why iron spider doing is an outlier

 

[M3X_2.0]

0 ***** given. Unless the profile reflects this, you can't do much.

 

[chosen]

He outskills Spider-Man that's really it

I mean even in the fight from CW cap mostly using skill and the shield

 

[Bernkastelll]

Honestly don't know there's no reason for it be as such even if it was only to scale to LS but I'd say Peter is pretty consistently and blatantly above cap with his physicals

Wait ther ie no reaosn to it?

 

[Dalesean027]

0 ***** given. Unless the profile reflects this, you can't do much.

Lol okay that's fine and it's not about what I can and can't do bud it's already been accepted in a CRT no need for the goofiness the profile will reflect it soon enough

 

[M3X_2.0]

We all know that Cap outskilled Spiderman, that's obvious, we all watched the movie. The point here is the Tony's statement about Cap being able to easily beat Spiderman if he wanted to. Completely different stuff.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Plus skill isn't everything. You'd still need the AP in order to take down a character as well. I doubt 9-A Cap would over power an 8-C Peter even if Cap was more skilled. Plus Peter's 8-C comes from Cap so....

 

[chosen]

What are Peter 8c feats without cap scaling anyway?

 

[Dalesean027]

Plus skill isn't everything. You'd still need the AP in order to take down a character as well. I doubt 9-A Cap would over power an 8-C Peter even if Cap was more skilled. Plus Peter's 8-C comes from Cap so....

And Cap's comes from harming Tony's no?

What are Peter 8c feats without cap scaling anyway?

I believe staggering Giant man and Destroying mysterios drone's

 

[M3X_2.0]

What are Peter 8c feats without cap scaling anyway?

None I guess. He doesn't have any. At least from what I can see in the profile, only scaling and a 9-A calc. Funny, dude just said this:

but Cap's 9-A while peter has consistent 8-C feats

They both have 9-A feats and Cap has way better scaling than Peter. Consistently fought against 8-C dudes. If Cap loses his 8-C rating, Peter and basically 90% of the verse does too.

 

[Dalesean027]

If Cap loses his 8-C rating, Peter and basically 90% of the verse does too.

That's kinda what was agreed upon already the downgrade is for those tiers to go to 9-A

 

[chosen]

I believe staggering Giant man and Destroying mysterios drone's

Giant man is City Block so would be higher than just 8c
Thought mysterio drones would be legit ig if there is any feat or something

 

[M3X_2.0]

peter has consistent 8-C feats

Then why you said this?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And Cap's comes from harming Tony's no?

Caps 8-C isn't from Iron Man. We don't scale Cap to Iron Man at all. IIRC, Camp's 8-C is from agents of shield scaling.

 

[Dalesean027]

Then why you said this?

He still is able to harm characters who have 8-C outside of anyone who'd scale to Cap

 

[M3X_2.0]

And who is the 8-C character that Peter scales?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And who is the 8-C character that Peter scales?

Captain America.