PrinceofPein
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I got permission from KingTempest to make this thread
THE MAIN POINT AND REASON WHY I MADE THE THREAD
My believe is that all of the wiki tiering pages and terms be explained in a way that even a layman can understand it with ease or little help, so here it goes
Currently for low 2-C on the Tiering Page we have this:
taking this from the FAQ page of the tiering system
also Ultima clarified it a bit when he said this
jokes aside there are lots of verses this will affect.
A MINOR THING THAT I THINK SHOULD ALSO BE CLARIFIED ON THE FAQ PAGE
1. Due to what happened in a fairytail thread and also some other thread, how do we treat verses that erased a certain part of the universe i.e. erased 10 years of a universe or 400 years, what tier do they scale to as they are not low 2C and this feat is unquantifiaby higher than 3A or High 3A
2. on the FAQ page we have this
Depending on answers for these two, it should be clarified on the FAQ page
THE MAIN POINT AND REASON WHY I MADE THE THREAD
My believe is that all of the wiki tiering pages and terms be explained in a way that even a layman can understand it with ease or little help, so here it goes
Currently for low 2-C on the Tiering Page we have this:
While most people wont know what a space-time conitinuum means which in the case would be the past, present and future of a Space-time(Universe)Low 2-C | Universe level+: Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[1], creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums of a universal scale. However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either:
taking this from the FAQ page of the tiering system
In simpler terms, if there is a set called "movie" that has "infinite(many) frames(Snapshot)" as members of the set, 3A or High 3A would be destruction of a single member of the set (i.e. a single frame (Present or a single point in time)) while low 2C would be destruction of the entire set(i.e. past, present and future).The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.
This structure can then be generalized to any amounts of dimensions, and is also the reason destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). So, for example, a spacetime continuum comprising two temporal dimensions (Instead of just one) would have an additional time direction whose "snapshots" correspond to the whole of a 4-dimensional spacetime, and so on and so forth.
also Ultima clarified it a bit when he said this
So i propose that these should be the new low 2C section of the tiering pageBy the way, since a bunch of people both here and outside of the wiki expressed some confusion as to what exactly this thread's proposal is, I'll say this just for clarity's sake: We are not changing the actual definition of Low 2-C, just applying some stricter standards so characters have to meet the actual requirement to qualify for it, that being destroying all of spacetime, and thus the entire universe across past, present and future. So, if you destroy the universe, but there is no evidence that it was destroyed across past and future, then you are not Low 2-C.
while this will downgrade a lot of low 2C, as i can think of a few off my head but i will not mention the said verses for peace to reign here.Low 2-C | Universe level+: Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[1], creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums(the entirety of past, present and future) of a universal scale. However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either:
jokes aside there are lots of verses this will affect.
A MINOR THING THAT I THINK SHOULD ALSO BE CLARIFIED ON THE FAQ PAGE
1. Due to what happened in a fairytail thread and also some other thread, how do we treat verses that erased a certain part of the universe i.e. erased 10 years of a universe or 400 years, what tier do they scale to as they are not low 2C and this feat is unquantifiaby higher than 3A or High 3A
2. on the FAQ page we have this
Does this mean that destruction of a universe who has two different direction of time (2D time) or does it mean a universe that contains another universe with its own different time i.e. the other dimension time flows in a different direction.So, for example, a spacetime continuum comprising two temporal dimensions (Instead of just one) would have an additional time direction whose "snapshots" correspond to the whole of a 4-dimensional spacetime, and so on and so forth.
Depending on answers for these two, it should be clarified on the FAQ page
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