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Ikki 1st key, amps disallowed. Mikoto has the AAA.

Speed unequal.

Mikoto knows her enemy can one-shot her, and has 10 mins prep-time, but she can't start in the air.

Fight in Academy City.
 
mhh this is a stomp with speed unequal and prep time, her attack are faster + with prep time she can just snipe him
 
Her attack is like 10x faster, which isn't that big of a deal. But ikki still has trackless Step.

At long range she won't be landing a hit, the speed difference is not high enough and Ikki can just block.

If shit hits the fan Trackless Step is gonna hit the field and end the fight.
 
>can just block,

with what ?i can understand the weaker attacks but anything 8a+ he can't block especially with prep time

she has KM of advantage and speed advantage for the attacks
 
He can block attacks FAR stronger, it's called deflection.

KM of advantage ain't gonn help all that much. He can just close the distance. As for speed, well yeah precisely only for attacks. Very predictable attacks that cannot change their trajectory and are fired from 4km away. Never gonna hit.
 
TS is useless because of the iron sand floor and the EM radar, do anyone know the speed difference needed to blitz?
 
ok i call bull shit here even from the other thread u are just wanking,

>he got never hit and if he it was cause of PIS and other reason but those don't matter so he is invincible

>he is 8a but can block all the attacks he wants that are stronger than him, especially those that come without his knowledge considering prep time

dude, u have a profile stick to it , if he can block more than 8a attack then it's not 8a durability

maybe u are confusing ikki with this https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/992/705/e77.png
 
He does get hit but in the cases i mentioned he didn't. He did get hit against Kirihara before Million Rain, cus he was specifically nervous. He gets hit against Stella cus he is constantly pressured by Stella's fear/overwhelming presence so he made a mistake (literally once in the whole fight).

He is 8-A but can block higher tier attacks for reasons actualy stated in the profile:

Block: Ikki has shown to be impeccable in terms of blocking attacks from even more powerful sources like Stella, an attacker so powerful she could turn his bones to ash with sheer strength, by blocking in such a manner that he would not suffer injuries even after taking several attacks from her. Stella stated that one small miscalculation would completely ruin the block, and he would receive the full force of the attack.

Stella was at least Low 7-C (likely higher) when ^^ this happened btw. Yet he never sustained any damage from those due to blocking in skillful ways. And why does this even matter? She's like 8-A, blocking 8-A attacks as a 8-A is what even normal humans can do in terms of blocking skill.
 
u know how stupid that sound ?

by ur logic Accelerator should not have 1hc durability and should fight people that can't hurt him

if he can block higher attack u NEED to specify it on the durability section be it with techniques or something else

example since it's relevant : Street level, Large Building level to Multi-City Block level with iron sand shields

if he can use the block techniques to resist more than 8a how are people supposed to know how much he can block if it's never stated on the profile ?
 
It is not durability, he's blocking in ways that specifically do not require him to tank or block the attack using force.

Durability is for tanking attacks, not for feats regarding attacks that can turn your bones to ash with a single mistake in blocking angle.

And yeah "multi city block level". Ikki is 8-A. What's the point?
 
XDragnoir said:
Her lightning is 7C, and she has ways to bypass durability.
Huh? She keeps her 7-C attack form her previous form? But eh barely matters, not a big difference, considering Stellas 6x amps. As for dura neg, it's useless as ikki isn't using durability to counter the attack.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
It is not durability, he's blocking in ways that specifically do not require him to tank or block the attack using force. Durability is for tanking attacks, not for feats regarding attacks that can turn your bones to ash with a single mistake in blocking angle.
And yeah "multi city block level". Ikki is 8-A. What's the point?
accelerator Field is not durability too, the field will simply invert whatever vector it come inside, but we have to give people a limit on how much it showed , or how is one supposed to know if the attack will pass or not ?


how do u excpect people to know which attack he can block and which he can't ?

and no don't go in the NLF hole
 
Im not saying, he has no limit, so idk what your point is here. By reading the profile which says "he blocked Stella". Am not going, idk why you brought it up.
 
U brought up the block feat, if he can use it , that means he has higher durability, doesn't matter if it's a technique , how do u excpect peilel of 8a to hurt him if he can block higher lvl attacks than 8a ?
 
I expect a 8-A to hurt him by managing to attack without him blocking. And no he doesn't have higher durability, it means he can block the attack of people who can 1 shot him. Doesn't mean his durability is high, just that he is skilled at blocking, because as i said, the attack would specifically turn his bones to ash.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Huh? She keeps her 7-C attack form her previous form? But eh barely matters, not a big difference, considering Stellas 6x amps. As for dura neg, it's useless as ikki isn't using durability to counter the attack.
She can use lightnings and EM waves to attack the insides directly, he can't counter it since he is 10× slower than her lightnings, and Idk the speed of EM waves.
 
ok discussed a bit

1 seems like someone is gonna look it up and mention it on the profile

2 assuming that is cleared up and block is allowed (boost his durability to 7c):

with prepe time she still one shoots as he deos not have chance to block

without prep time assuming block technique can even dissipate lighting and is omnidirectional (as they are not swords strike ), misaka can't hurt him, tho she can stall indefinitely by flying but at that point it's not a fight anymore and is a battle of endurance with misaka hoping that he at some point can't use block to hit him from the sky

does he have paralysis resistance or some sort of electric resistance ?
 
If he really manages to block everything she does, and since she knows of the One-Shot part of the match, would Mikoto go a bit out of character and use EM waves in his brain to knock him out?
 
i don't think she can

tho he is not resistant to paralysis on the profile so the lighting when they hit should paralyze him or kill him if it stops his hearth

and

Powerful Electromagnetic Pulse: Mikoto has the ability to create magnetic pulses that target the enemy's organs to disrupt their functions
 
@malox

Why does she 1 shot with prep time? Also dodging exists.

Why so fixated on blocking? Dodging is a thing. And yeah he can block. Not only that but TS hits the field and like gl at that point.

He does have resistance to paralysis, not in this key though.

About the em pulse how does it work? Is it an attack?
 
cause prep time is literally that, time advantage over the opponent, how is he supposed to know he is getting snipped from long range with prep time ?

it's literally an IRL electromagnetic pulse like and after nuke EMP, u know how u organs work by bio electricity right ? an EM pulse strong enough would mess with them not only electronics like int he films

if he does not have it in this key he is getting paralyzed by the lighting strikes

btw TS is countered by EM radar and iron sand field + she is flying
 
Prep time is "you're given time to prepare something". Not attack before the fight starts.

Ok but is it like actual omnidirectional em waves? Though what's the range?

Not necessarily he can just dodge.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Prep time is "you're given time to prepare something". Not attack before the fight starts.
Ok but is it like actual omnidirectional em waves? Though what's the range?

Not necessarily he can just dodge.
nono it counts even for that ,look at snipers fights

lighting strikes are faster than him and can be omnidirectional in the feat page there is everything + manga and ln scans

em waves are omnidirectional (they star form her and are like normal ones) but we don't know the range
 
obvs but i mean the moment she pulls the trigger the battle start, but still ikki does not know of her until he sees her
 
Show me a fight where ppl voted during prep time. Just link it.

Yeah, so? Aim dodging is possible. 10x faster is far more doable than you think.

Then ikki just attacks before she uses it, waits for her to stop using it or just yeets his sword at her in her blind spot.
 
Schnee One said:
Accelerator having a durability was considered to be arbitrary so not the best example.
u know what i mean, there is kekeine with DM wings having different durability, touma IB too, hell even misaka with iron sand shield

if a technique boost ur AP or durability in some way it should be in the section
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Show me a fight where ppl voted during prep time. Just link it.
Yeah, so? Aim dodging is possible. 10x faster is far more doable than you think.

Then ikki just attacks before she uses it, waits for her to stop using it or just yeets his sword at her in her blind spot.
gotta need to find it, but it was basically accelerator vs a sniper with negation bullets, argument was that it was a stomp cause the sniper would shoot him from the start and bye head

aim dodging multidirectional attack or omnidirectional attacks faster than u is not easy

she has no blind spots it's the EM radar look at the feat page and she is flying again
 
Ionliosite said:
As said before, there's no technique boosting anything here.
if it allows him to tank more than he supposed to it's the same, i already explained , think of this in the reverse for AP, if using a sword technique allow for greater visible AP then it should be there, even tho the user is not really boosting himself , or u could use such arguments to one shoot everyone

i know how it works he is dissipating the impact on the ground, it still counts
 
Malox1696 said:
obvs but i mean the moment she pulls the trigger the battle start, but still ikki does not know of her until he sees her
There is a thing called travel time. Fight starts she attacks there it's time before it reaches ikki. He'll dodge 10 times over in that time.
 
Malox1696 wrote gotta need to find it, but it was basically accelerator vs a sniper with negation bullets, argument was that it was a stomp cause the sniper would shoot him from the start and bye head

aim dodging multidirectional attack or omnidirectional attacks faster than u is not easy

she has no blind spots it's the EM radar look at the feat page and she is flying again

Yes he shot when the fight starts not before he does.

Never said it's easy but your opponent is ikki.

Meh, trackless step then.
 
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