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Shouldn’t Saiyan Saga Krillin’s destructo disc be low 5-B?
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An attack being sharp enough to damage a person of a certain tier should be on the profile.
AP is not about destructive force. "The Destructive Capacity that an attack is equivalent to. A character with a certain degree of attack potency does not necessarily need to cause destructive feats on that level, but can cause damage to characters that can withstand such forces. As such it isn't proof of a low attack potency, if a character's attacks only cause a small amount of destruction."
The attack can cause damage to someone who is a higher tier? Than having that level of AP for that attack, even if it is due to being sharp, is within reason. Ignoring a possible feat just because it's done via cutting is absurd. Either mention in the AP section, or call it an outlier.
Do not ignore it because of reasons.
AP is not about destructive force. "The Destructive Capacity that an attack is equivalent to. A character with a certain degree of attack potency does not necessarily need to cause destructive feats on that level, but can cause damage to characters that can withstand such forces. As such it isn't proof of a low attack potency, if a character's attacks only cause a small amount of destruction."
The attack can cause damage to someone who is a higher tier? Than having that level of AP for that attack, even if it is due to being sharp, is within reason. Ignoring a possible feat just because it's done via cutting is absurd. Either mention in the AP section, or call it an outlier.
Do not ignore it because of reasons.
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If I can add an example to this: If one of our sword profiles can chop a boulder in half, then on the profile, the sword would be given whatever tier the AP was calculated as. No one is dismissing it because "cutting". So, I ask: How is an energy blade chopping through someone with the durability of a certain tier any different? It's not like anyone's saying Krillin can punch this hard, just hurt people this strong with one specific attack.
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I just don't want it to be misleading. So long as it specifies it is with the Destruco Disk and people are clear that he can't just empower his other Ki blasts to cause that level of destruction / force, then fine.
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Of course, it does need to be specified.
I believe that whatever tier with Destructo Disc is what is being suggested here? Obviously his other attacks do not scale to this, as this attack is made to cut through opponents that are stronger than himself.
Vizer04
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This, we should do this
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Why is this even a debate? Krillin’s Kienzan has:
It’s very obvious the Kienzan scales above his normal AP and such be listed as such, I have no idea why there’s contention at all.
- prompted Vegeta to scream for Nappa to evade
- made Great Ape Vegeta evade
- cut Freeza’s tail
It’s very obvious the Kienzan scales above his normal AP and such be listed as such, I have no idea why there’s contention at all.
Vizer04
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Nullflowerblush
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Goku, in base, also used a Destructo Disc to cut Buu in half.
Vizer04
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Buu barely counts though. Even ordinary bullets could go through Buu's body when he wasn't guarding himself.
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Not to be that guy but that's literally what the entire CRT is about ofc it's being specified with the destructo disk and that's not at all the message or image you've displayed with your previous responses that if it specified it's okay. @Coolboy6 argued this through and through to be countered with circular arguements that and statements that wouldn't or shouldn't have happened if it was all down to just specifying that it's only okay to tier it with the damage of the destructo disk specifically. And I'm not putting this all on you but please try and articulate where you stand on these things better first and how you'd handle them before countering.
Anywho I'm glad that got sorted out and I do agree with you that cutting Buu doesn't or rather shouldn't count in this case
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Actually, I'm not convinced yet that it should be applied. Other staff seem to have issues with the Destruco Disk in this thread too.
Vizer04
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That's a different thing, staff disagree because Goku was possibly holding back against Krillin.
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Yeah but skimming over that I don't even agree with that and it'd create some weird scaling since characters like 18 would then also be affected jumping them up solidly to 3-A which is obviously a major jump that isn't justified plus it's moreso because of inconsistencies in super and Goku holding back
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I'd like some input from @DarkDragonMedeus or @AKM sama to get this resolved.
Vizer04
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Also, you should stop derailing this thread.
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Excuse me?
Vizer04
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There was no reason to mention the other thread, it's a separate thing.
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I believe he means because it's using the destructo disk for scaling so it's relevant in a way
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I'm not sure about this. Krillin's Kienzan is clearly able to cut fighter WAY above his league (Nappa, Frieza). Even Goku cut Buutenks in half
It may be that Kienzan allows the user to ignore durability or simply cut people regardless of how strong they are
It may be that Kienzan allows the user to ignore durability or simply cut people regardless of how strong they are
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Correct.
Buutenks doesn't count. Buu's durability is extremely flexible.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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I wouldn't count this as durability per se, but I get what you're saying. Nappa and Frieza's examples still work regardless
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completely agree with the original post, I don't understand the counterarguments
isn't it common knowledge that piercing damage is able to hurt things that are on a much higher tier? original post makes complete sense, I agree
isn't it common knowledge that piercing damage is able to hurt things that are on a much higher tier? original post makes complete sense, I agree
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yeah but they all missed
Vizer04
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wait actually I watched it again and Jiren straight up just kicks them out of existence and even catches and throws one back
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I already said my comments, I personally don't think this is good enough evidence for Krillin to be Low 5-B via Destructo Disks.
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Nappa wasn't distracted, as the reply to your previous statement says
Vizer04
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Of course, i will make clear that it's specifically with Destructo Disc :3
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I'm ok with his Destructo Disk being upgraded.
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