Should we merge the Dragon Ball and DBGT verse pages?

[DarkDragonMedeus]

That is false equivalency. The difference is that Dragon Ball Super reintroduces Broly as a different character entirely with an altered backstory with Super's version being much stronger. And Videl actually didn't have the costume in Fusion Reborn. Speaking of Fusion Reborn there's the fact that Vegeta knew Fusion Dance despite him never doing it outside of Fusion and it's way too OoC and pure headcanon to assume he did it in between scenarios.

 

[Missy0124]

i misremember its been a bit since i seen fusion reborn and also i always thought super was non canon but to this extent not really again just probroly just another ret con/plot hole to add to list of many that it has made or could be a case of plot induced stupidity which is not unlikey to say the least

 

[Missy0124]

showing two swords with no statement that are different colors in the hilt and shape does not prove nothing and even then so tapion's sword looks more future trunks and theirs line in xenoverse saying it is but a allternate telling or timeline which the events went differently which could be case to make

 

[Chartate101]

can you please stop posting 2 or more things at a time?

 

[Missy0124]

can you please stop posting 2 or more things at a time?

it was two separate replys for two different arguments and also the fact you complain when i separate my sentences and you also complain when i have one message so what do you want a run on sentence or a confined one addressing different points of my argument

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@Missy0124, put an @UserName replacing UserName of the person you're talking to at the beginning of the paragraph if you're talking to someone specifically. There's also the long quotes, try clicking the bottom of the page where it says "Post a reply" instead of the "Quote" button. Also, use one reply at a time, but have that reply make use of well structured sentences and/or paragraph; not a run on sentence. Also, use punctuation. That includes putting a "." at the end of each sentence compound sentences should have "," in the middle.

If you still have trouble, perhaps this could be of some help at least.

 

[Antvasima]

We should preferably return to the main topic.

@Missy

Please stop derailing this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

@Kepekley23

How is your work with reorganising the pages proceeding?

 

[Kyle_Ramos]

Seems good to me tbh

 

[Missy0124]

@Antvasima

I will try my best with my grammar from here and then on. Just a question is the revisions based off evidence and arguments given. I agree with the merging of the two pages

 

[Antvasima]

We won't merge the two pages, just reorganise their contents according to Kepekley's suggestions above.

 

[Missy0124]

@Antvasima

This thread should be closed then since the choice on the matter has aready been decided much to disagree on the choice made.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Not yet, we can wait for Kepekley. Once he's done, then he will respond to say the deed is done. Then we will close the thread afterwards.

 

[Antvasima]

We first wait for confirmation from Kepekley that he has handled the issue, and might also have to give input afterwards.

 

[Missy0124]

@Antvasima

Is it seperated by z super and ball in one and all the stuff that dont fit in the other. What would be the names of these

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It's just moving Dragon Ball (Anime)/Dragon Ball Z(Anime)/Movies/Filler included to Dragon Ball GT, and renaming it to Dragon Ball (Toei), that was what was agreed.

 

[Missy0124]

@DarkDragonMedeus

May you explain this toeiverse concept it does not make sense at all to me. Aside from the z anime to gt whch makes sense how and why do the movies fit in

 

[Assaltwaffle]

I disagree with joining the profiles together.

 

[Kepekley23]

@Kepekley23

How is your work with reorganising the pages proceeding?

My progress so far is here:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Dragon_Ball_(Toei)_(W.I.P)

Almost done. I just need to put all the characters in their sections.

 

[Antvasima]

@Kepekley23

Okay. Thank you for the help.

 

[RashFaustinho]

So, the DB Heroes stuff will be added there as well, despite not being Toei Canon?

Good job anyway, both pages will be much better this way.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

DB Heroes isn't going to be added to the Toei continuity.

 

[RashFaustinho]

DB Heroes isn't going to be added to the Toei continuity.

So, it will remain in the "canon" page?

That's confusing. I know that technichally videogames aren't part of either continuities (Manga or Toei), but still

 

[Missy0124]

@RashFaustinho

I am a huge Dragon Ball fan and i have no idea how to make sense of a toei timeline

It is illogical and most of the canon is headcanon if you may try to give me some insight i might argee with your stance on that matter

 

[KLOL506]

DB has too many canons at this point

 

[Missy0124]

@KLOL506

I argee with you on that point and just wondering do you think a toei timeline is Logical

 

[KLOL506]

Obviously it is, just like all the other DB verses.

 

[Missy0124]

@KLOL506

So you belive Lucifer from blood rubies and Janeba to be in the same canon with Princess Snake and Omega Shenron if so explain to me how that would work.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems to be a derailment of this thread.

 

[AppleLord]

Will the DB Super stuff be added there as well, being Toei canon and all?

To my understanding the only canon sequels to DBZ manga are Battle of God's, Ressurection of F, Universe 6 vs Universe 7, Zamasu, ToP happened but we don't know if they follow Toei's or Toyotaro's canon and of course the Broly movie.

Dragon Ball Super anime barely has anything besides Toriyama's supervision and approval while with Dragon Ball Super Manga Toriyama's supervision and approval is not only present but he sits down and approves/change Toyotaro's work and even draws certain things if they are not to his liking, despite popular bias toward the anime over the manga, Toriyama has less involvement in the anime than the manga.

• That doesn't change the fact that Toriyama's canon are the movies.

• DB Super Anime is Toei's canon.

• DB Super Manga is Toyotaro's canon.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Dragon Ball Super Anime will remain canon; also again, that is derailment from this thread.

 

[AppleLord]

Dragon Ball Super Anime will remain canon; also again, that is derailment from this thread.

It will. But it isn't. That's fact.

 

[Missy0124]

@DarkDragonMedeus

Explain to me how toei as canon makes any sense

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@Missy0124 and @Applelord come to my wall for that instead of derailing the thread further, I'll explain to both of you in detail for each of your concerns respectively when I have time, but I'm pretty tied up with RL stuff ATM.

 

[AppleLord]

@Missy0124 and @Applelord come to my wall for that instead of derailing the thread further, I'll explain to both of you in detail for each of your concerns respectively when I have time, but I'm pretty tied up with RL stuff ATM.

I made a thread about it. You can post there.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Sorry for taking so long for this thread to come through, but I have made the changes that were agreed a while back. About GT being expanded into Dragon Ball (Toei). Anyway, I will close this thread since it's finally concluded.