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Should Namor Have a 4-B upgrade?

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Namor beats red hulk. https://s.amsu.ng/jORDhNJtHdVN

Namors scuffle with silver surfer. https://s.amsu.ng/7hkjkKagOd0N

Namor ties with hercules again. https://s.amsu.ng/llKdWyH9zl0N

Stalemates thor until someone interferes https://s.amsu.ng/e2zxhidzQTtN

Vs beta rey bill. https://s.amsu.ng/wn2HW892qlRN


Scuffle with the thing and tankes a hit from thor. https://s.amsu.ng/FC8glX3yakGN

Why namor should scale to green hulk http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/02/hulk-vs-sub-mariner.html?m=1m

only showing feats before his amp in the current marvel to prove he's always been deserving of a 4-B placement
 
Namor's one of those weird guys like the Thing that's usually portrayed as a level below the true S-tiers of the verse but actually has a ton of instances where he seems to scale to them. Same as Aquama pretty much.
 
I think we should preferably ignore those instances where he fights 4-B guys, with no "up to".
 
Eficiente wrote: I think we should preferably ignore those instances where he fights 4-B guys, with no "up to". </div> Namor has matched hulk almost 35 times in strenght and beaten him 4 tumes, we cant ignore that.
 
Aquaman is currently treated as just scaling to them right now.

As for the thread I agree with Thing and Namor getting an "up to 4-B" rating. The two of them have consistently fought on par with beings on the 4-B level for as long as they were within comics and sometimes has stomped them on occassion depending on the continuity.
 
I have a very hard time believing that Namor has matched the Hulk 35 times, but there have been a few times that I remember.
 
His wiki page is also missing low-mid regeration, he healed from wolverines double shank in the chest, and in another fight he healed from logan stabbing him in chest again. And he has his giganto summon, and he can still control sea life he just doesn't talk to them.
 
I believe "up to 4-B" is okay since I do remember him fighting the likes of Hulk and Thor on equal grounds multiple times.
 
Maybe we should seperate his keys the same way we do with Dry and Wet Deep Sea King from One Punch Man
 
No. Feats are one thing but we have to understand context. Namor may fight Hulk and Thor, but he's a Fantastic Four character, not a Hulk or Thor character. His Fantastic Four feats and general showings, which place him around Thing level, are more relevant.

It wouldn't be "up to 4-B", anyways. It'd be possibly 4-B.
 
Promestein said:
No. Feats are one thing but we have to understand context. Namor may fight Hulk and Thor, but he's a Fantastic Four character, not a Hulk or Thor character. His Fantastic Four feats and general showings, which place him around Thing level, are more relevant.

It wouldn't be "up to 4-B", anyways. It'd be possibly 4-B.
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For the last 15-20 years hes been in the in every major event. Basically he moved on from the fantastic four and even if, both thing and johnny torch have fought herald level characters consistently and even wiped the flood with some.
 
Eficiente said:
I think we should preferably ignore those instances where he fights 4-B guys, with no "up to".
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I disagree with OP mainly because we would be ignoring the fact Namor has trouble with the characters we have ranked as 5-A. If we were lenient and used the fact our tier 5 marvel characters fought with or injured tier 4 charcters we would easily be able to upscle all of them. Which is why portrayal is important.
 
@Promestein

Well, you usually have a better sense of judgement than I do regarding these types of things. However, Namor was apparently recently powered-up to the degree of stopping attacks from Thor and She-Hulk at the same time. Should we include an extra statistics key for that, or wait until he has made more appearances/feats?
 
Just adding my last two cents in before I go to sleep. But Namor isn't solely a FF character in the slightest. Yes, the very first group of people he associated with in the comics was with the Fantastic Four, but since then he's been in more X-Men, Avengers and even Defenders comics then Fantastic Four and has more panel time with the respected groups listed also. And the last time he was even seen with the Fantastic Four was in 2014 and even before that it was 2001. So to say he's just a Fantastic Four character is blasphemy.

PS: If you want proof of my claim, click here, here and here .
 
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