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The point is, is it necessary to have speed equal tho lol just because it says it doesn't mean it's equal
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Shōnen Snake Showdown: Orochimaru vs. Gin Ichimaru. (1-3-0)
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If said 6-C attack (his fastest one) can't hit, then yes speed equal is necessary. Speed equal doesn't even change BRs attack speed so that would make no difference anyway.
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Being 3x faster is not an end all be all.AnonymousBlank said:
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Oro can still dodge the attack with Shunshin easily also forgot he has illusions manipulation
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And speed is equalized if neccessaryRocker1189 said:
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And it is not since a 6-C attack one shots.Hst master said:
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Oro is 3x faster than Gin's fastest attack (which he needs to stand still for) while Oro is 6x faster than his 2nd fastest attack. You tell me how Gin isn't blitzed without speed equal.
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Oh but it is fine to speed equal so that Oro can not dodge Gin's attack and gets oneshot in stead lol.AnonymousBlank said:
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Buto Renjin (the 6-C) still extends at mach 1000 so Oro is still dodging. KnY is still extending at mach 500 so Oro is (once again) still dodging. Speed equal doesn't make attack speed equal.
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I was under the impression that it did. But if not then ok I guess. But that simply means that he would not be hit by Buto Renjin.AnonymousBlank said:
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Guys.
Gin's regular Bankai's contractions and expansions are seen as almost instantaneous to people who are comparable to Gin's speed. If Buto Renjin is twice as fast as his normal Bankai and is still 3x slower than Orochimaru, then I think Gin would get blitzed in combat.
Which means that Speed will be equalized.
Gin's regular Bankai's contractions and expansions are seen as almost instantaneous to people who are comparable to Gin's speed. If Buto Renjin is twice as fast as his normal Bankai and is still 3x slower than Orochimaru, then I think Gin would get blitzed in combat.
Which means that Speed will be equalized.
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Scratch that Oros illusions come from something else
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Wait.
Gin's normal combat speed is Massively Hypersonic+ and that it is higher with his attacks.
Massively Hypersonic+ bare minimum requirement is Mach 1000. So there is something amiss here.
With all this confusion with Gin's speed, I'm just going to equalize it permanently.
Gin's normal combat speed is Massively Hypersonic+ and that it is higher with his attacks.
Massively Hypersonic+ bare minimum requirement is Mach 1000. So there is something amiss here.
With all this confusion with Gin's speed, I'm just going to equalize it permanently.
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Gin does not even have a reason to be MHS+. It leads no where.
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I think someone said they were gonna make a CRT for the pre time skip bleach speeds cause it makes no sense lol
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Yeah I wanted to tackle that cause even I'm confused my it. I don't even know where it starts and I can't find a calc tbh.AstralKing7 said:
We just assume the match is equalized. Meaning Gin and Oro have similar speed. Ichigo was as fast as Gin and to Ichigo it was a struggle to dodge, and Buto Renjin was impossible to dodge unless he had his mask, so assume the same here.
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So buto renjin one shots and Oro can not do anything about it, great Oro loses. We good.
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Is Gin starting with his Bankai already out? The OP's prompt doesn't tell me much.
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Well that is what everyone is implying.
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@Warren, what are the specifics regarding the characters? A certain key, are they in character, peak gear/jutsu or starting in Bankai?
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Gin starts out with a sealed zanpakto.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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SBA says bankai out, on-character, standard equipment
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I think there is a guide that states that Ichigo in his fight with Byakuya can move at the speed of Lightning.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Is that where their speed comes from?
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... Buto Renjin was only used once so no it wasn't dodged several times.Zzsax said:
Kamishini no Yari was dodged, but Ichigo was struggling to do so and was hit a few times. Buto was dodged once and Buto Renjin was only dodged because Ichigo had his Mask.
@Warren
I have the Japanese and English version of the Databook that mentions this, is this what we base the speed rating on for Soul Society Arc characters? If so then I guess I understand, but it should be mentioned then on Ichigo's profile at least.
Also, @Rics and @Warren, one of you said Bankai is out and the other said Bankai starts sealed, so I'm a bit confused.
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My bad, I tought it was a different key entierly.
Yes, it does start sealed.
Yes, it does start sealed.
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It was while against hiruzen, I doubt it is currentlyZzsax said:
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Yeah I agree with Ricsi there, it would be standard during the Chunin Exam, but any point after is a no.
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Doesn't SBA make this Exam finals Oro? Nerfed to hell as they are, the Edo's would still make a difference.
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No, most recente version.AnonymousBlank said:
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The highest tier, otherwise the most recent.YungManzi said:
Hax, much less standard equipment, are not counted
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I'm so confused on which Oro is at play, man.
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Current, its not hard
