Shōnen Snake Showdown: Orochimaru vs. Gin Ichimaru. (1-3-0)

[Ricsi-viragosi]

There is no prep

 

[Zzsax]

@ricsi

Prep isn't the exact word I was going for more like ceremony or contract,once you've performed the ceremony once then you can summon the edo tensei anytime like a regular animal summon.is this the case?am really not sure

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No.

You need a human(oid) sacrifice.

 

[HST_Master]

For example how he used the sound ninjas for Hashi and Tobirama and later used Zetsu Clones

While Kabuto just used a whole bunch of people he kidnapped

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Well, no humanoids beyond these two are around, so its not an option I'm afraid

 

[Zzsax]

Oh okay.. Gin fra

 

[YungManzi]

@Ricsi

Zzsax is actually correct, once edo tensei is active, they need to be sealed or something else....otherwise they should be active as long as the caster wants....at least as far as I know.

They require a sacrifice, but only when first being summoned.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But... there is nothing to sacrifice, wich is my point.

 

[AstralKing7]

If this is Oro during the Destruction of Lead arc then he already has his summons ready

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If this is Oro during the Destruction of Lead arc then he already has his summons ready

But its not.

 

[AstralKing7]

Which is it cause that technically was the only time Oro was at his strongest

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Which is it cause that technically was the only time Oro was at his strongest

Not how it works.

Please, I don't want to repeat myself over and over.

Strongest only aplies to Tier, not hax.

 

[AstralKing7]

Which Oro is this

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Current canon

 

[YungManzi]

That's true, but the thing is, an edo caster would already have it.

I understand saying that Orochimaru wouldn't have it because this isn't the version who has access to it, but to say he couldn't use it because of the steps to activation, even though he would already have access to it under normal circumstances....is....

It's like saying Goku in DBS won't have access to Super Saiyan God, because of the conditions needed to reach it, even though it's a constant transformation that he keeps after obtaining it.

As I said, the only reason Orochimaru couldn't use Edo for so long is because his arms, and the Hokage's souls, were sealed away. If it wasn't for that Orochimaru would go into every major fight with them already active and destroy almost anybody.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, it isn't like that.

He showcased the need for a body with the whole zetsu bit, and he doesn't have redo's premade.

So you point is moot

 

[AstralKing7]

Current??? You guys want this to be a stump huh lol

 

[YungManzi]

@Ricsi

I'm not sayig he doesn't need a body to activate.

I'm not saying he has them premade.

I'm saying that he only needs to activate it one time, after that it remains constant and doesn't deactivate unless he disspells it or they get sealed (Or destroyed on the wiki).

And that one time he needed to activate it was against Hiruzen.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And Im saying your point is mood and doesn't aply here

 

[YungManzi]

Well, it doesn't apply here becuase the version of Orochimaru being used isn't the one with access to edo.

I was replying directly to a previous comment you made about him needing a sacrifice.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But that was also right, as he does need one to activate it.

After its activated it obviously doesn't dispell on its own

 

[Zzsax]

@yung

I think Ricsi is right, after the edo tensei is released, you need a sacrifice to call them from the afterlife,the current oro has all his edo released therefore none to summon

 

[YungManzi]

I wasn't talking about current Oro.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

ich makes it derailing to this thread, so please, everyone, lets not go into details useless here for either side.

 

[Zzsax]

OK

I think Oro might need an edo tensei key on his profile or something

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No.

It was a one time thing he had preparated specifically. The second time he just grabbed a random zetsu.

 

[YungManzi]

Edo tensei isn't a one-off jutsu. Which was the whole point of my argument....but I'm done with derailing. On to the fight...

Gin FRA.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Bump.