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One punch. Accumulation of damage isn't counted here in VsB.
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Shigeo Kageyama vs. Jotaro Kujo
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No, we have seen with people like Dio that he interacts with things normally. The kinetic energy doesn't just remain there to be unleashed the second Shigeo's barrier is down. If he can't destroy it in 5 seconds of normal time, he won't in 5 of stopped time.
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Kakyoin disagrees.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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Kakyion and everyone else should also be completely untouchable for DIO due to their stopped time, but that's obviously not it. Things touched by DIO and Jotaro are, to some degree, affected like they weren't stopped in time. My only point is that if Jotaro can't destroy the barrier in 5 seconds of normal time, he won't in seconds of stopped time.
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Kakyoin got donutted, and only went hurtling away to the water tower when ts ended.
Is there any reason for Jotaro to not be able to break the barrier in 5 seconds?
Is there any reason for Jotaro to not be able to break the barrier in 5 seconds?
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And Mob's entire powerset is based around mental energy.Ecetereis said:
No matter what way you look at this Shigeo can see and interact with Star Platinum.
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And a cat got kicked by DIO, it travelled some distance and then stopped,TacticalNuke002 said:
If we decided to think Jotaro time stopped at the very start, or managed to timestop somehow, Mob's passive defense left him undamaged by 0.73 attacks. Jotario's Star Platinum is only 1.25x something stronger, and that was something Mob tanked while already drained from energy. Jotaro can get through, but not in 5 seconds worth of punches.
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Jotaro has that AP with one punch. A full barrage (which may have dozens) would obviously break it down.
Retracting my vote for now.
Retracting my vote for now.
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Jotaro's scaling chain is
0.738 (iirc) tons=Tarkus<<<Post-Deep Pass Jonathan (oneshotted or defeated extremely easy Tarkus)=<Dio<Awakened Dio<Jotaro (a single punch caused Dio to explode)
Unless we consider the final attack PIS, but even then Star Platinum constantly caused damage to both Dio and Awakened Dio.
0.738 (iirc) tons=Tarkus<<<Post-Deep Pass Jonathan (oneshotted or defeated extremely easy Tarkus)=<Dio<Awakened Dio<Jotaro (a single punch caused Dio to explode)
Unless we consider the final attack PIS, but even then Star Platinum constantly caused damage to both Dio and Awakened Dio.
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Only Awakened Dio is supposedly stronger than Part 1 Dio, but I don't think it's by much. Regular Part 3 Dio got always shitstomped by Star Platinum.
As for Awakened Dio vs Star Platinum, it's unclear since Dio got his hand broken by the latter, but in the manga, he was matching him during the Steamroller Scene without the World.
And Star Platinum is equal to the World.
As for Awakened Dio vs Star Platinum, it's unclear since Dio got his hand broken by the latter, but in the manga, he was matching him during the Steamroller Scene without the World.
And Star Platinum is equal to the World.
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so uh
Mob is now 3 Tons
I feel like that probably changes things.
Mob is now 3 Tons
I feel like that probably changes things.
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Oof
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That's a big upgrade
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No, 3 Tons was Shimazaki going all out on Teru. It wasn't casual.Nico-v11 said:
The only character with a casual 3 ton feat is Serizawa, who is explicitly stronger than Base Mob and Shimazaki.
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Why?
It's only a 3x difference.
It's only a 3x difference.
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It was contested previously because of a casual scaling chain
It was done by going all out, so that's moot.
It's only 3x.
It was done by going all out, so that's moot.
It's only 3x.
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Yeah and how many times has Mob's barrier actually been broken? Not many from what I remember. Especially with only a 5 second time frame to break the barrier.
Even if he somehow manages to break it Mob is still around and he'll still be alive and conscious to continue fighting after those 5 seconds.
On a different note Megumu Koyama is 8-C for destroying Mob's barriers buuuuutttt Mob is High 8-C....anyway has anyone other than him even gotten close to breaking them?
Even if he somehow manages to break it Mob is still around and he'll still be alive and conscious to continue fighting after those 5 seconds.
On a different note Megumu Koyama is 8-C for destroying Mob's barriers buuuuutttt Mob is High 8-C....anyway has anyone other than him even gotten close to breaking them?
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10 seconds I think
No one is able to break Mobs barrier Because someone is fighting back, a free 10 seconds to wail on him helps a lot
No one is able to break Mobs barrier Because someone is fighting back, a free 10 seconds to wail on him helps a lot
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10 seconds? This is Jotaro, not DIO.
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I thought he was equal to Dio but I remembered that was unawakened
My bad
My bad
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FtfyTriforcePower1 said:
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I'm in the middle of fixing that.Nico-v11 said:
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So yeah only 5 seconds. Mob can easily survive that.
Jotaro is wailing on him for a full 5 seconds
That doesn't seem to be easily survivable.
Jotaro is wailing on him for a full 5 seconds
That doesn't seem to be easily survivable.
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'we sort of have an issue where 5 seconds allows for like a bagillion punches if we consider speed, while if we consider his actual fights it doesn't amount to much.
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bump
Should I keep this as Jotaro or switch to someone stronger like DIO or Diavolo?
Should I keep this as Jotaro or switch to someone stronger like DIO or Diavolo?
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I don't think Jotaro has a chance of winning here, honestly. And with Dio and Diavolo, if the range is like it is now, both would be an inconclusive who shoots first I'm pretty sure.
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At does Jotaro not have a chance but Dio dies?
He has regen over Jotaro but offensively he's only slightly above
He has regen over Jotaro but offensively he's only slightly above
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