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from what you said if he dodges the first hit he dodges everything right?
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Shichika Yasuri vs luffy (7-A tournament)
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Not necessarily, Shichika can keep the combo going and try to catch him on the other hits. He can potentially take out seven opponents with the same combo by switching targets on each hit. The only move in the combo that left an opening to dodge was Ryoryou Kakkou, which is why in Hachiretsu: Kai he's made it the opening move, so that once it's begun the combo is inescapable.
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There'd be a bit more of a gap than that if you take the strongest ninjas and Hakuhei into account. But I think we're using pre-Complete Shichika so it's a moot point
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this is post cake arc luffy so his ap is significantly weaker than shichika's Luffy without gear fourth is around 200-300 megatons iirc but im not sure. Im guessing if Shichika's Full combo hits, Luffy will either be dead or severely injured. With CoO Luffy should be able to dodge at least the first half if not most of it though
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I doubt that. Hoo Maniwa just scales to incomplete Shichika and Hakuhei and Emonzaemon scale above Hoo but below completed Shichika. The Hakuhei fight was mostly off-screened and he didn't go full power anyway
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If Luffy gets hit even with a part of the combo, it's going to be bad for him because Shichika scales quite a decent amount higher than him
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yeah and this combo negates durability right? I wonder if CoA can reduce damage. Another problem is that if Luffy doesn't one shot Shichika with Red Hawk His chances of winning are slim since he doesn't have Gear fourth he'll have to make do with Gear 3
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True I think Gear second counts as a speed amp right? It wouldn't Blitz but it would still be a good advantage
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Well if in character Its unlikely that Luffy would do that. It would be more likely if Luffy kept throwing attacks at Shichika since stamina isnt much of a Problem anymore
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Emonzaemon and Hoo scale equally to each other, and Hakuhei is decently far above them. Semi-Completed Shichika stomps an opponent who is explicitly comparable or superior to Hakuhei, and is stated to surpass all previous deviant blade wielders.
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But it's unknown how they exactly scale to Nanami (whose feat is the one used for scaling everyone). As such, Emonzaemon and Hoo just scale to incomplete Shichika somewhat, Hakuhei is more of a mystery. My point is that they can't really be used to add steps to Shichika's scaling so it just goes : 388 MT < nanami < incomplete shichika <<< completed Shichika. Anyway it is clear that he scales quite a bit above 388 MT
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Shichika punched a hole straight through Nanami and explicitly surpassed her at that level by the next episode. In his state shortly after surpassing her, he scales to Biyorigou and Zanki, who would scale below Hoo and Emonzaemon, who are regularly described as weaker than Hakuhei, who is stated to have been surpassed by Kojiro, who was surpassed by Completed Shichika.
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This part is not exactly based on anything directly IMO. Shichika actually defeats almost everyone with casual ease - except Emonzaemon, Nanami and Hakuei. Despite all the conditions placed on him
I don't know who that is
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Shichika fought Biyorigou to a draw, Biyorigou only losing due to being deprived of its power source. Zanki was exactly 60% as strong as Shichika. Emonzaemon and Hoo are perfect equals and scale above that, as the two most dangerous warriors in Japan besides Hakuhei.
Hakuhei at full power is the strongest warrior in Japan until Shichika becomes Complete.
While replicating the abilities of Sasaki Kojiro, who he explicitly states surpasses Hakuhei in skill, Shikizaki got stomped by Shichika while he wasn't fully Complete.
Hakuhei at full power is the strongest warrior in Japan until Shichika becomes Complete.
While replicating the abilities of Sasaki Kojiro, who he explicitly states surpasses Hakuhei in skill, Shikizaki got stomped by Shichika while he wasn't fully Complete.
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Incorrect on the Shikizaki point. Like, explicitly completely wrong. They even have a conversation about how he's using techniques that surpass Hakuhei in order to test Shichika's Completeness
That is an extremely good point about Biyorigou, I will definitely need to revisit that fight.
Either way the comparison doesn't really matter since he out-AP's Luffy either way.
That is an extremely good point about Biyorigou, I will definitely need to revisit that fight.
Either way the comparison doesn't really matter since he out-AP's Luffy either way.
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woah when did Shichika become 7-A
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Nanami Yasuri had an off-screen 7A feat apparently. I was just as surprised
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G2 is a blitz worthy amp. He blitzstomped Blueno with it who was keeping up with him in base.
Precog+Speed advantage makes most of Shichika's attacks useless.
Precog+Speed advantage makes most of Shichika's attacks useless.
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Shichika is possibly gonna be downgraded now that new info from the ln has come to light, however.
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What are the reasons for Luffy beating Shichika?
Shichika outskills by an absurd margin, has significantly better precog (being both prediction and future sight), and can ignore all of the benefits of Luffy's rubber body.
Shichika outskills by an absurd margin, has significantly better precog (being both prediction and future sight), and can ignore all of the benefits of Luffy's rubber body.
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you realize luffy has all those and to a greater extent right? Not to mention luffy can blitz since gear second is counted as a speed amp. He doesn’t outskill by an absurd margin at most its just around 5 years of experience since Luffy has also engaged in combat since he was a kid
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No he doesn't.
I don't remember all of Shichika's feats, but something he does very early on is completely meme on Kyouken Maniwa. Kyouken is a ghost who possesses other female Maniwa ninjas to fight and gain their knowledge and experience, with the average Maniwa ninja being able to remain undetected while standing directly in front of some and assassinate any normal warrior without using their arms or legs. Kyouken has the combined combat skill of 2000 of these ninjas, who were likely well above average, and Shichika proceeds to casually precog her every move and expel her from the body she's in.
Observation Haki isn't anywhere near as good as Shichika's precog, as seen above. Not only that, but Shichika is incomparably superior to his BoS state where he could see through an entire fighting style after witnessing one attack.
What happens is this:
Luffy goes in for an attack. Shichika dodges and hits him. Luffy's heart explodes.
I don't remember all of Shichika's feats, but something he does very early on is completely meme on Kyouken Maniwa. Kyouken is a ghost who possesses other female Maniwa ninjas to fight and gain their knowledge and experience, with the average Maniwa ninja being able to remain undetected while standing directly in front of some and assassinate any normal warrior without using their arms or legs. Kyouken has the combined combat skill of 2000 of these ninjas, who were likely well above average, and Shichika proceeds to casually precog her every move and expel her from the body she's in.
Observation Haki isn't anywhere near as good as Shichika's precog, as seen above. Not only that, but Shichika is incomparably superior to his BoS state where he could see through an entire fighting style after witnessing one attack.
What happens is this:
Luffy goes in for an attack. Shichika dodges and hits him. Luffy's heart explodes.
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Ranged attacks that involve his body. Which is still connected to his torso. And that doesn't help him at all, because Shichika is far better than Nanami who can precog an entire fight from someone's stance alone.
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Luffy outranges in a way that makes it insultingly easy for Shichika to beat him. Shichika's precog is also future sight, functioning somewhat like a weapon telling him what it's about to do, which works on people who use martial arts because they have transformed their bodies into a living weapon.
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So? for all I know that fight was probably a blitz and not to mention gear second still speed stomps
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I dont understand how outranges became a disadvantage
