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How adoes a weakend neverwere is differnt from a fullpowerd one
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SCP Discussion Thread 5
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The problem is not the statement, rather the approach. Any time we find something remotely indicative of higher dimensions or (in this case and the past threads) infinite one's and we immediately jump ahead and try to upgrade without analyzing first it's consistency or even if it should be actually applied. And now we've even started talking about 1-A stuff. I love SCP, but come on. Calm down a little.WeeklyBattles said:
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This would now be the third statement of infinite spatial idmensions in the verse, from the same tale that we currently scale them being 1-B, it is consistent enough to warrant an upgrade
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Well, that was fast.
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I'm not trying to upgrade it without analyzing it. I'm looking at 1-A for the implications if it does get accepted, so we can mention that in the CRT, instead of just saying "lol heres this statement now figure it out everyone".LephyrTheRevanchist said:
It's worthwhile figuring out the implications if something gets accepted before it's submitted.
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This statement isn't 1-A
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The argument is that since the statement is High 1-B, and characters are qualitatively superior, or in some cases many levels of qualitatively superior over that High 1-B statement, those characters should be 1-A.Kepekley23 said:
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1-A means no dimensional limitations, outright. No matter how much you transcend a High 1-B setting, it isn't 1-A unless you're outside of it altogether.
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If that was the case, seeing any dimensional setting as fiction would be enough to warrant 1-A (due to the fact that reality-fiction interaction is superior to a mere dimensional interaction).
The definitions for 1-A say no dimensional limitations.
The definitions for 1-A say no dimensional limitations.
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@Kepekley It also says "There should either be a qualitative superiority over infinite dimensions..."
Not just any dimensional setting as fiction, but an infinite one.
Reality-fiction is unquantifiably superior to a mere dimensional interaction, but that doesn't mean it's infinitely superior. Seeing a finite number of dimensions as fiction doesn't mean you're necessarily superior to infinite dimensions.
Not just any dimensional setting as fiction, but an infinite one.
Reality-fiction is unquantifiably superior to a mere dimensional interaction, but that doesn't mean it's infinitely superior. Seeing a finite number of dimensions as fiction doesn't mean you're necessarily superior to infinite dimensions.
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The beginning of the description, and several instances after it, state clearly that the characters should have no dimensional limitations whatsoever.
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We should add in a "Likely" or "possibly" for the 1-A like we do with warhammer and Gan.
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There's no evidence of 1-A SCP, assuming High 1-B gets accepted to begin with.
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Are you asking mePhoenix821 said:
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>no evidenceKepekley23 said:
uncountably infinite >>>>.....>>>> countably infinite (or just infinite), or is qualitively superior to any countable infinity
there you go
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on an unrelated note, i imagine most of you guys have heard about RPC, and my message is to basically just wait a month or 2 before doing anything with it since it's going through the same flux that early SCP did and so that most of the kinks can be ironed out in regards to quality control
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RPC?
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it's a very new SCP spinoff created by /x/Kirbyelmejor said:
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I don't think that Uncountable Infinity = High 1-B automatically, like at all.
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I do agree but there was an explicit Infinite dimensional statement
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I'll make my own foundation. With blackjack, and hookers.Hl3 or bust said:
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that was probably the original ideaZacharyGrossman273 said:
@matt countable infinite D = high 1-B, uncountably infinite is literally larger than infinity (basically baseline 1-A, due to its qualitive superiority to infinity)
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Can we put the debate on hold until someone gets together a portfolio to put forward in a revision thread? One that would likely need a lot more input? I feel like the discussion thread isn't the right place for big, verse-changing debate like this.
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is it 2317, the sun or some other one?Kople700 said:
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It's a new 001 entry titled "A simple toymaker" Supposedly Dr Wondertainment created every scp in existence. A feat we've seen from other scp entries though, That'd put it at around 1-B. Since he/she/it/innapcicable made 682 173 and 2634. I dunno if it'd scale from 682's 1-B form or not. Same goes for 173. But it'd still be at 1-C for creating 2634. Which makes me hella excited for a wondertainment page possible on the wiki.
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@HI3 I don't agree that uncountably infinitely many dimensions equals 1-A. They're still part of dimensional constructs. Uncountably infinitely many dimensions sounds above all countably infinite High 1-Bs, but below the "above the concept of dimensions" 1-As.
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unrelated, but can stuff from the other language SCP websites be used here?
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Uncountably infinite dimensions = High 1-B
Transcending Uncountably infinite dimensions to the point of seeing them as nothing but a work of fiction and existing completely above and beyond the narrative construct that contains said dimensions = 1-A
Transcending Uncountably infinite dimensions to the point of seeing them as nothing but a work of fiction and existing completely above and beyond the narrative construct that contains said dimensions = 1-A
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weren't you the one who mentioned that simply being qualitively superior to infinite dimensions bakes you, at least, baseline 1-A?WeeklyBattles said:
i can see uncountably infinite dimensions still being high 1-B tho, just to such a high degree that it puts the god tiers in the same situation they're already in in regards to getting fights
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No, that wouldnt be a qualitative superiority, being a higher degree of infinity doesnt make you 1-A
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Yes
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I second this. Aside from Yalda & Mek, Richard C. Normus and Kondraki, Talloran is probably my favorite character in SCP.Kople700 said:
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a quick rereading of 3999 shows that 3999 represents the writing process (what a revalation) and talloran killed itLephyrTheRevanchist said:
obviously, 3999 is in some way directly related to swann, and is likely comparable to mary, and so is talloran for killing it
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Swaan would propibly lose its postion as the strongest 1B if it this is prove to be true
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