Scp 682 vs kaguya

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Adaptation of 682 only up to 5B

682 starts at its weakest

682 has knowlege of what and how chakra works

Kaguya knows how 682s adaptation works

Both know the possible conditions of victory

Start 10 kms away from each other on the moon (real world)

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Kaguya mind haxes him if she knows about its adaptation.

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[Schnee_One]

682 resists 1B Mind hax

 

[Huesito88]

 

[Kaltias]

682 resists 1B Mind hax

No

 

[Dzhindzholia]

RIP You're thread

 

[Schnee_One]

No

Oh?

 

[Kaltias]

It doesn't resist 1-B mind hax.

It resists mind hax in the millions

 

[Schnee_One]

Ah, I see.

So......

IT?

 

[DMB_1]

Apparently, 682 doesn't technically have an "actual mind".

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Even whitout that, she can keep damaging it before it regenerates completly, as thats how acid can keep it contained

 

[Schnee_One]

Apparently, 682 doesn't technically have an "actual mind".

Such Wank

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But 1B mindhax comes only with its higher dimensional mind, and that is part of type 8 immortality that is automaticaly restricted

 

[DMB_1]

Apparently, 682 doesn't technically have an "actual mind".

Such Wank

Do I look like the guy that knows how many damn things that lizard has done? I just read some random comments in the wiki. Go ask Weekly if you want.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

How can you have resistance to mind manipulation without a mind?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

682 has a 3D mind, and all sentient beings can be mindhaxed, even if mindless.

 

[DMB_1]

If you didn't have a mind, nobody could mind-hax you.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, if you dont have sentience.

There are many "mindless" characters that still are sentient

 

[RKGenki]

>Arguing about mindhax against 682

682 vs Homulilly flashbacks

 

[Belyompusct]

cough Edo Tensei cough

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yeah, but mindhax is not the only thing she can do

 

[Kaltias]

>Arguing about mindhax against 682

682 vs Homulilly flashbacks

We do not speak of that thread

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Can we not meme this thread into submission?

 

[DMB_1]

No, if you dont have sentience.
There are many "mindless" characters that still are sentient

Depends on the verse-definition of the term "mindless

Generally it means that the being has very basic intelligence and he's really dumb. Otherwise, it means that he technically doesn't have mind (and this is fiction, there are nenexisting characters that can freely talk and interact with existing things, this is the same case with sentience).

 

[Agnaa]

So, how strong is Kaguya's mindhax?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

All of humanty, so likely houndreds of millions. But even then it was effortlesly.

 

[Agnaa]

So, going from the law of "Don't use NLF" mind manip should work.

Rip 682 question mark?

I'd still like Weekly to comment in case I missed something, but tentative vote for Kaguya.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Well, it depends if 1B consciusness can be restricted.

 

[Agnaa]

Why would a 1B consciousness have 1B mind manip resist, unless it's explicitly shown as having such?

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Why would a 1B consciousness have 1B mind manip resist, unless it's explicitly shown as having such?

..because it's higher-d and Kaguya has never shown to be able to effect higher-d minds?

No, it wouldn't be restricted, the rules only restrict higher-d immortality.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

For the same reason a 4D has resistance up to 4D.

affecting the mind of something several houndreds of infinities above you is quiet the nlf. But 1B consciusness gives it immortality type 8, so it really depends whenever or not it can be restricted

 

[Agnaa]

..because it's higher-d and Kaguya has never shown to be able to effect higher-d minds?

No, it wouldn't be restricted,the rules only restrict higher-d immortality.

Why do higher-d minds require higher-d mind manip?

It's a feat of hax, not AP, minds would still have a similar structure on that level. (unless demonstrated otherwise)

I wouldn't expect a 4d being to suddenly no-sell all 3d plot manip/concept manip, these types of hax are not instantly worthless in higher dimensions.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Plus isnt every 682 its own being? Withball of them being created by the one consciusness?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Said higher Ds are stated to be beyond the comprehension of the scp organization

 

[Agnaa]

@Risci ???

It's still only affecting one mind. Mind manip bypasses dura, it shouldn't be walled by AP.

I'm not sure what that higher d's being beyond the comprehension of the scp foundation has to do with it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The fact that said mind has more knowlege and information then beings that are beyond infinitly above humans mind counters that tough

 

[Agnaa]

The fact that said mind has more knowlege and information then beings that are beyond infinitly above humans mind counters that tough

So you're asserting that 682 is infinitely smarter than humans?

Why's his intelligence only "Extremely High"?

Even if he is, I'm still not completely convinced by "being smarter = mind manip resistance".

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Because he is not night omniscient.

But again, I am no expert on scp, I believe 682 himself jas a mind, and the 1B has a mind, with the two not interacting with each other beyond the consciusnes making 682s death impossible

 

[Kaltias]

Why do higher-d minds require higher-d mind manip?

It's a feat of hax, not AP, minds would still have a similar structure on that level. (unless demonstrated otherwise)

I wouldn't expect a 4d being to suddenly no-sell all 3d plot manip/concept manip, these types of hax are not instantly worthless in higher dimensions.

Because they are infinitely more complex than lower-d minds, in order to actually understand what's going on on their level of existence. It was already discussed here.

3-D plot and conceptual manipulation are 100% worthless for a 4-D being

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But is 682 1B mentaly? Like, isnt the consciusness entierly different?