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Okita alter is better too, tan+big boobs+ carry more about youI think your taking this too seriously mate I'm talking about wife quality
Zoro and Musashi's fight is just an hour of staring at eachother before one one shots the other.
Him foreseeing the slash does nothing. He can't change it since he doesn't have fate manip. Normal servants resist space manip and it worked on them.Again, if she narrows down all those possibilities into HER MOST IDEAL SCENARIO, it'd still be a scenario where Zoro foresees her slash. She reaches her ideal outcome and Zoro just changes it via foreseeing said ideal outcome. That's why I said relying on her eye and his foresight would result in a clash that wouldn't even occur. Whatever her ideal outcome is, he'd foresee it. And again, it's literally said to bend space/Time to its needs, and characters with strong enough haki can counter one of those two. (I don't know if it was ever specified to be busoshoku or haoshoku, but Kaido and BM passively counter that )
What's even the scale used for Haki countering them anyway? AP vs AP? It'd make sense since OP is mostly about brawn and Musashi's ability to cut down to the very last good outcome was negated by Ivan via sheer presence.
Zoro and Musashi's fight is just an hour of staring at eachother before one one shots the other.
?Just close this thread... I mean, the statements in fate are vague af and fate supporters uses their own headcanon on how the ability works. I literally will get different answers from different fate supporters
Hey normal Okita's got a handful, shit that's all I needOkita alter is better too, tan+big boobs+ carry more about you
You can counter precog users... It doesn't mean they should have resistance to precog.He doesn't have fate hax
Except it doesn't exist anymore an another futur is that to understand? What you tlak is basically choosing an another possibility, except it doesn't exist anymore.Not necessarily. Foreseeing an action and countering it changes the future of that action, which creates a new outcome entirely. That isn't necessarily fate manip, it's just a domino effect.
So you mean every of historical or Kurosawa movie fights
You'd just have to be far faster, or have precog of your own to counter (Im pretty sure)You can counter precog users... It doesn't mean they should have resistance to precog.
False equivalency here as she litteraly erase all other futur, he only have one choose creating an other would need the ability to create it which is fate manipulationYou can counter precog users... It doesn't mean they should have resistance to precog.
Zoro's Resistance >>> Servant's Resistance. Zoro's Resistance is very much layered in terms of the kind of spatial manipulation he can resist with his Busoshoku.Him foreseeing the slash does nothing. He can't change it since he doesn't have fate manip. Normal servants resist space manip and it worked on them.
Servant resistance are 4D....Zoro's Resistance >>> Servant's Resistance. Zoro's Resistance is very much layered in terms of the kind of spatial manipulation he can resist with his Busoshoku.
This basically.Would this fight even apply to either? Isn't Zoro getting downgraded (again) because Dressrosa's the size of my backyard now?
No where does it say she erases all other futures... She removes all possibilities in 1 futureFalse equivalency here as she litteraly erase all other futur
Servant's luck stats has actual feats of resisting (upto some minor extents) fate and causality manipulation so not the same thingZoro has supernatural luck btw... Via resisting Curse Manipulation
Resistance to Curse Manipulation (He was able to overcome a cursed sword only by using his own luck, the same cursed sword that bring bad things and mysterious deaths to the people who carry it)
Servant's are resistant to 4-D space? But they get affected by space Manipulation all the time? Got a link for that?Servant resistance are 4D....
That's so tragic.Would this fight even apply to either? Isn't Zoro getting downgraded (again) because Dressrosa's the size of my backyard now?
She erase all other futur except the one she want, it make it one futur...No where does it say she erases all other futures... She removes all possibilities in 1 future
No she removes all of the possibilities expect the one that favors herNo where does it say she erases all other futures... She removes all possibilities in 1 future
Give an instant of Musashi bypassing anyone's 4D resistance?Servant resistance are 4D....
...she removes them...No where does it say she erases all other futures... She removes all possibilities in 1 future
Both are unironically the most skilled swordsmen in the whole nasuverse. Basically they are putting Zoro, who is still in his world strongest swordsman journey against ridiculous op swordmen from VNs, not even the weakest or less skilled ones (Acausality, conceptual manipulation, etc etc the typical VN Chuunige type).By the way, heathens there are like 50+ Swordsmen in the Nasuverse that you could use against Zoro but for some reason people only ever use Musashi and Sasaki.
Is 1-C? How does that even work?And musashi space Manipulation is 1-C
Not all servant but MR servant(which count some of servant that musashi fighted) i mean it's on the servant physiology, and since you like to use what is on profile lolServant's are resistant to 4-D space? But they get affected by space Manipulation all the time? Got a link for that?
Ivan, servant etcGive an instant of Musashi bypassing anyone's 4D resistance?
It worked on him but its zero musashi I believeIs 1-C? How does that even work?
If she can remove infinite possibilities in infinite future literally no one can counter her... Like 0.000001% max couldNo she removes all of the possibilities expect the one that favors her
Servant resistance are 4D....
That's the reason why i didn't do much of Raikou spam latelyServant's are resistant to 4-D space? But they get affected by space Manipulation all the time? Got a link for that?
Yeah and this is whats used on the page. This isn't 4-D in any sense of the term.Not all servant but MR servant(which count some of servant that musashi fighted) i mean it's on the servant physiology, and since you like to use what is on profile lol
....it literally says infinite in the descriptionIf she can remove infinite possibilities in infinite future literally no one can counter her... Like 0.000001% max could
It's because thatYeah and this is whats used on the page. This isn't 4-D in any sense of the term.
It's just fate/probability manip their are a lot of counters for that but zoro has none of thoseIf she can remove infinite possibilities in infinite future literally no one can counter her... Like 0.000001% max could
...it literally says infinite in the description
She not always in zero form you know? It's a thing she activeAnd here we are naming Zero Musashi feats. Just the fact that it's Ivan, AFTER SHIMOUSA, should immidiately nullify the argument because this debate is pre-zero