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Santōryū vs Niten Ichi-ryū

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MonkeyOfLife said:
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Only infinite possibilities not infinite futures
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Possibilities are futures
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Regidian said:
Due to Magecraft's nature as magical energy from the soul given form, and the Soul's nature as a higher dimensional form, the resistances and effects listed thereof are at least 4 dimensional in nature,
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Last I checked we didn't give any Servant's 4-D resistance, it stemming from the soul is completely irrelevant unless we now assume everything a mage does is 4-D in nature. As in now we have 4-D Fire Manipulation, 4-D water Manipulation, 4-D air Manipulation and so on and so forth. I think even you can see the issue here.
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And this
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This one isn't even talking about space, nor is it a resistance since they were affected. No mention of a higher dimension is made, just that they were pulled out of the 3rd and into others.
 
LordGinSama said:
Last I checked we didn't give any Servant's 4-D resistance, it stemming from the soul is completely irrelevant unless we now assume everything a mage does is 4-D in nature. As in now we have 4-D Fire Manipulation, 4-D water Manipulation, 4-D air Manipulation and so on and so forth. I think even you can see the issue here.

This one isn't even talking about space, nor is it a resistance since they were affected. No mention of a higher dimension is made, just that they were pulled out of the 3rd and into others.
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The text mention about how elemental manipulation is not but the rest is
 
although it should be noted that physical phenomena attacks, like Elemental Manipulation, do not work like that, as they are not spiritual or metaphysical in nature.
 
But anyways it was accepted so would need a crt to change it (like you tell me for her fighting yagyuu suigetsu 👀👀)
 
Yeah and that thread was created by a notorious Fate wanker and very little input was given there, I'll talk to Crimson about it since he's one of the few Fate fans who doesn't have an endless upgrade boner for the verse.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Yee... She isn't erasing infinite futures of infinite futures only 1
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Heavenly Eye is said to be the power to achieve one's goals. It's an act of resolve to do something, then putting your entire body and soul into achieving it. One could say that it's an act of putting your entire self and existence into your gaze, and projecting it towards your goal.
In Musashi's case, Heavenly Eye is used only to wield her blade on the spot. For example, if she decides to cut her opponent's right arm, she'll do whatever it takes to sever it. Her strike will be optimized, bending time and space toward achieving this goal.
The power to narrow down all potential options for achieving a goal into a single eventuality. It could also be described as a very special type of Mystic Eye, which narrows an infinite number of possible futures down to only one.
 
She is erasing infinite futures/possibilities from that 1 future... There are still many futures ahead
 
Rez said:
Heavenly Eye is said to be the power to achieve one's goals. It's an act of resolve to do something, then putting your entire body and soul into achieving it. One could say that it's an act of putting your entire self and existence into your gaze, and projecting it towards your goal.
In Musashi's case, Heavenly Eye is used only to wield her blade on the spot. For example, if she decides to cut her opponent's right arm, she'll do whatever it takes to sever it. Her strike will be optimized, bending time and space toward achieving this goal.
The power to narrow down all potential options for achieving a goal into a single eventuality. It could also be described as a very special type of Mystic Eye, which narrows an infinite number of possible futures down to only one.
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I have read her profile.
 
Heavenly Eye is used only to wield her blade on the spot. For example, if she decides to cut her opponent's right arm, she'll do whatever it takes to sever it. Her strike will be optimized, bending time and space toward achieving this goal.
The power to narrow down all potential options for achieving a goal into a single eventuality. It could also be described as a very special type of Mystic Eye, which narrows an infinite number of possible futures down to only one.
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Where does it say it only shave 1 future? When it clearly says it norrow down infinite possible future to 1.
 
I'll be honest, i have some of the issue with 4-D magecraft and it resistances for MR, but it better that the issue should tackled to the new thread

I'll be happy if we sacrifice 4-D Magecraft/Resistances for 4-D soul being stay instead
 
Heavenly Eyes: A set of extremely special Mystic Eyes that limit the infinite possibilities of the future into “a single” result.

It doesn't say all futures
 
Regidian said:
It's on potency not AP/DC
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4-D hax. And what? If they're using energy from the soul, whjch is 4-D and from what I recall they have Magic Circuts in their body would by some extent, making them 4-D yourself. You can't be a 3-D being with a 4-D energy running throughout your veins that you can use to boost yourself.
 
Rez said:
I fail to understand what you are trying to convey
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Well of course it's hard to understand... Think of it like one piece future sight, the future sight sees only 1 of many futures like 10 sec in the future or 18h into the future. One of those futures are being erased to a single outcome... It is for example only the 10 sec into the future that is being erased into 1 outcome... There are still 18h into the future or 1 billion light years into the future she doesn't limit to only 1 outcome. She limits every possibilities/future in that 10 sec into the future.
 
LordGinSama said:
4-D hax. And what? If they're using energy from the soul, whjch is 4-D and from what I recall they have Magic Circuts in their body would by some extent, making them 4-D yourself. You can't be a 3-D being with a 4-D energy running throughout your veins that you can use to boost yourself.
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I don't think magic Circuit would make them, and they boost of physical ability are not 4D like Elemental ability
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Well of course it's hard to understand... Think of it like one piece future sight, the future sight sees only 1 of many future like 10 sec in the future or 18h into the future. One of those futures are being erased to a single outcome... It is for example only the 10 sec into the future that is being erased into 1 outcome... There are still 18h into the future or 1 billion light years into the future she doesn't limit to only 1 outcome. She limits every possibilities in that 10 sec into the future.
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And where you get that? Why you guy create thing that not mention never? She can use her eyes to go in like other timeline. And she can can do it more than just "10sec" litteraly show in my scan above where she cut all the possibility of all the fight she have with this man. + You know a futur is a continuity no? The futur of 10 min and 8h ahead is in the same continuity.


+ Heavenly eyes description litteraly tell every possible futures
 
This thread litteraly goes to nothing, us who talk about other thing and one guy thay suddenly decide go create thing that never mention or exist just because he decided it bruh
 
Regidian said:
And where you get that? Why you guy create thing that not mention never? She can use her eyes to go in like other timeline. And she can can do it more than just "10sec" litteraly show in my scan above where she cut all the possibility of all the fight she have with this man
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You literally said yes that she can erase infinite possibilities/futures of all futures.
 
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