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Sans vs Weiss
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Weiss does not have ways to win and people agreed with me
This was supposed to be closed a while ago but Azzy opened it up to explain something and forgot to close it
This was supposed to be closed a while ago but Azzy opened it up to explain something and forgot to close it
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Weiss can catch him with aoe because you know
He doesn't spam teleport like you seem to think he does
He doesn't spam teleport like you seem to think he does
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Yeah, and people disagreed, and pointed out why. His opening move won't even affect her due to difference in lifting strenght, and the idea of jumping from an attack that comes from below isn't exactly revolutionary.
After that he fires one wall of attacks that she could manouver around with glyphs, and the ghaster blasters are predictable as all hell.
After that he fires one wall of attacks that she could manouver around with glyphs, and the ghaster blasters are predictable as all hell.
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Her AoE is only in a small area around herself
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@Ricsi Yes and people disagreed with them and pointed out why
Again, this was already closed for being a stomp and was supposed to be closed because of it but no one bothered to
Again, this was already closed for being a stomp and was supposed to be closed because of it but no one bothered to
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So, besides you, who else said that this was a stomp?
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@Xtasy Half the people in the beginning of the thread
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She has homing attacks and sans only ever dodged melee attacks and bullets fired in one exact point and slower to him to boot.WeeklyBattles said:
He isn't that good at dodging.
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@Ricsi Her Homing attacks can very easily be dodged with TP and blocked and they dont do any damage
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Qoute them please.WeeklyBattles said:
And beginning of the thread?
Like, before arguments to why it isn't were brought up?
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Blocked..? How?WeeklyBattles said:
And easily dodged? The beiggest dodge he ever did is side step. If they were flying in his direction, he would side step them only.
Where do you get sans being this god at dodging at? He never even dealt with mmultiple attacks at once.
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Blocked with a wall of bones
The attacks dont deal any damage so even if they hit him he can teleport out
Yall are overhyping Weiss waaaaaaay too much
The attacks dont deal any damage so even if they hit him he can teleport out
Yall are overhyping Weiss waaaaaaay too much
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I think he got it from you, but that's not the point here. We all know Sans just sidesteps to avoid a stab but I still don't think this is a stomp.
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@Xtasy Yes it is a stomp as Weiss has no ways to win, even if she freezes him he teleports out
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He's trapped in ice, how tf do you teleport out of that?
He's trapped in ice, how tf do you teleport out of that?
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Blocked by a wall... of intangible bones.
He teleports stuff directly attached to him tough.
No. You seem to be ignoring that sans' first attack will be completly useless, and without being plastered to the grround it's not really hard to dodge his second one, and his third is useless against anyone with actual mopbility half as good as weiss'.
He teleports stuff directly attached to him tough.
No. You seem to be ignoring that sans' first attack will be completly useless, and without being plastered to the grround it's not really hard to dodge his second one, and his third is useless against anyone with actual mopbility half as good as weiss'.
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By teleporting...? Its a block of ice formed around you not power nullification
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Okay, let's set things straight. Who thinks that this isn't/is a stomp besides Weekly?
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@Ricsi Yes, blocked by a wall of bones
The ice isnt attached to him
It will not be useless as Weiss isnt even small enough to fit through the gaps necessary to avoid the attack
The ice isnt attached to him
It will not be useless as Weiss isnt even small enough to fit through the gaps necessary to avoid the attack
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Also i love how people use Weiss' arsenal as an argument only when its convenient to say a match isnt a stomp, then ignore it completely against a character she would easily beat with it
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So, assuming Weiss just blankly stares at sans without doing any attacks...
...sans tries to gravity manip, and fails miserably due to lifting strenght.
He does the bones from undergroundm thing, and without her soul splattered on the ground, she can just jump.
After that, the wall of bones can just be jumped around with glyphs, because it's ten meters tall tops, and the ghaster blasters are predictible as all hell.
...sans tries to gravity manip, and fails miserably due to lifting strenght.
He does the bones from undergroundm thing, and without her soul splattered on the ground, she can just jump.
After that, the wall of bones can just be jumped around with glyphs, because it's ten meters tall tops, and the ghaster blasters are predictible as all hell.
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Weiss' gravity manip doesnt have a lifting strength my dude
She cant jump due to him gravity maniping her to the ground
She cant jump due to him gravity maniping her to the ground
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There is nothing Weiss can do to even potentially win here, this is a stomp
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Did you miss the intangible part? You know, the part that makes you unable to physically touch things? Or the fact that if they could, weiss' ap would one-shot it?WeeklyBattles said:
Ice by nature is physically attached to you.
She can just jump over them. Because they aren't even 5 meters tall to be honest. And her soul would fit through.
Weiss' gravity manip? I am talking about sans here.
His gravity manip can at best lift a child, and even then they can jump. Someone with prupulsion and class K lifting strenght can jump above them with ease.
No, it isn't. Arguments were had, majority disagrees, and your own opinion can't overwrite that of others.
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Ricsi, do you think that this isn't a stomp?
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Yeah it is not.
All of sans' attack is countered by her lifting strenght and glyphs, she can one-shot, and sans' attacks after that are even easier to dodge.
All of sans' attack is countered by her lifting strenght and glyphs, she can one-shot, and sans' attacks after that are even easier to dodge.
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But why does he win though?
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@Ricsi Did you miss the part where i said yes those bones would block the attack? Or the part where i said that the attacks dont have an AP as they do no damage so its impossible for them to oneshot?
Not ice created by Ice Dust, its just a block of ice that forms around you.
She cant jump as she'd be unable to move due to his gravity manip. Frisk's child sized soul can barely fit through, Weiss wont fit.
Not ice created by Ice Dust, its just a block of ice that forms around you.
She cant jump as she'd be unable to move due to his gravity manip. Frisk's child sized soul can barely fit through, Weiss wont fit.
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Weiss' lifting strength means jack shit here, its a non-factor
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But they wouldn't. It is litirally impossible for them to do. There is also the fact that sans' never once does this.
Back that up please, because I see no reason for it to not act like normal ice. Aura can block freezing, but that doesn't mean that everyone will be unafected.
Unable to move? Child sized soul? What are you on about, this feels like a youtube comment section using their favourite au as a basis? Sans' gravity manip can barely hold back a child who with wank can lift a ton. And souls are all equally big, be they human, monster or child.
Back that up please, because I see no reason for it to not act like normal ice. Aura can block freezing, but that doesn't mean that everyone will be unafected.
Unable to move? Child sized soul? What are you on about, this feels like a youtube comment section using their favourite au as a basis? Sans' gravity manip can barely hold back a child who with wank can lift a ton. And souls are all equally big, be they human, monster or child.
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Do you know how gravity works?WeeklyBattles said:
If someone who can lift a ton can move under gravity, someone who can lift several tons also can move under that same gravity. (This can change if the second weights far more, but that isn't the cas here, since frisk was like 150cm or something.)
Increasing gravity just makes you heavier. Lifting strenght counters that.
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Having higher lifting strength doesnt stop you from being thrown around by gravity manip that is basically telekinesis in how it works, you'd need density manip in order to counter it
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But it stops you from being plastered to the ground. You can only be thrown around when there is nothing to hold ontu or stand on.WeeklyBattles said:
Sans starts with pushing you downwards, which is hard countered by lifting strenght.
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@Ricsi Because weve seen Weiss freeze things directly without ice dust, ice dust just encases things. Stop making wild assumptions to try to make this seem fair because its not, all ice Dust does is encase things, it doesnt directly freeze you
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Firstly, being skintight on something is still enough to consider sans being in cantact with it. And you know what, being on contact with him teleports ya with him.WeeklyBattles said:
Also, you firstly don't tell me what to do, and secondly, you are claiming that weiss would be so heavily crushed by gravity that she couldn't jump when a child with not even a hundreth of her power could do so.
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Yes, she would be crushed. And what do you mean not even a hundredth? Frisk was 7-C when he fought sans, he's hundreds of thousands of times stronger than Weiss.
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Do you not understand the difference between lifting strenght and AP, or is it gravity that you don't understand?WeeklyBattles said:
Gravity increases your weight. The amount of weight you can carry and still move is set by lifting strenght.
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Lifting Strength is the weight you can lift
AP is the amount of energy you release with your attacks
Weiss would be crushed as the most her gravity manip has shown to be able to lift is a teenage girl and she needs to actively concentrate to use it
AP is the amount of energy you release with your attacks
Weiss would be crushed as the most her gravity manip has shown to be able to lift is a teenage girl and she needs to actively concentrate to use it
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Her gravity manipulation doesn't matter here. The most sans' gravity manipulation has shown to lift is a ''child''.
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