Sans vs Snowman: The hopefully non-stomp version

[Rodri_"Dante"]

Snowman has been killing some monsters, and unlike certain fellow, she isn't human.

• Battle takes place in the Judgement Hall Scratch's mansion, both at 10 metters of distance
• Sans knows that killing Snowman will destroy the universe
• Both in character
• Speed equalized
• Victory by KO, 3 minutes of incapacitation or (In Snowman's case) death

• Sans: 0
• Snowman: 0
• Icoclussive: 0

 

[Lightbuster30]

Killing snowman won't destroy the universe. Genesis frog doesn't encompass the undertale verse, where this fight takes place.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Snowmans death 2-A is aplicable to fights due to neutral grounds and all that. In UT, it shouldn't wotk. Still, sans can just knock her out (Monsters have shown the ability to stop doing damage once someone reaches 0 HP as long as they prepare, papyrus being the best exemple)

 

[Lightbuster30]

How does that even make sense? How does neutral ground change anything?

I'm not against koing. But that just sounds very off.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

Then again, the only thing Sans knows is that "killing Snowman destroys the universe". But yeah, let's change the location to, say... Scratch's mansion? Though we will have to assume that monsters live in Alternia now.

Still, sans can just knock her out

That's assuming he can take her by surprise, which will be pretty dificult.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

How does that even make sense? How does neutral ground change anything?
I'm not against koing. But that just sounds very off.

Neutral ground makes it so that her suicide works cuz its specificly made so that both can be at their best (Thanos will be able to use th IG despite them working in their original universe only for exemple.)

That's assuming he can take her by surprise, which will be pretty dificult.
I tought more something more like teleporting her in the mniddle of his atttacksand using danmaku to do it.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

I tought more something more like teleporting her in the mniddle of his atttacksand using danmaku to do it.

Which will be pretty difficult to do when the enemy already knows your movements. I mean sure, it could happen, but is not that easy.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Realisticly, despute knowing what he does it's still nearly impossible to get the fight well.

And here he can just teleport spam, as he knows that he only needs to win once, instead of his usual "piss 'em off" tactic

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Plus frisk can manipulate their soul to dodge that way, can snowman do that as well?

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

Dunno, but parry is a pretty common tactic in Homestuck (Snowman has a big lance to do that), and she has teleportation as well.

Other thing that will make life difficult for Sans is her stamina: Snowman is pretty much comparable to Spades Slick, who was active for many hours even after having his arm ripped off. She could pretty well have a fatal injury and slowly die meanwhile Sans is unable to knock her out for good.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I don't think danmaku can just be parried like that, and sans can just teport his attacks to wherever snowman teleports.

Not really. Sans attacks the soul, and papyrus showed that hitting 1 Hp was enough to knock frisk out.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

But Sans won't know that Snowman can teleport until she does so. Hell, there's no reason to think she won't teleport and shoot Sans from behind, or right away shoot where Sans is going to teleport before he does so. I personally belive this could go either way, but there are many factors that make hard to accept any vote.

By the way, Sans' durability is finally useful in a fight.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And snowman shooting him in the back would do what? He can just go to sleep if he feels particularly tired and he wouldn't be under much of a danger