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time manip and soul hax are completely different thoWould Sans's soul hax even work? Sans has been fighting 2Bs for a while now, and it always came down to 'ha ha soul hax go brrr', but wouldn't Piccolo (and the rest of the Dragon Ball verse for that matter) just be flatout way to strong for that to work? Jiren overpowered Hit's time manip just because he was too stronk. I honestly have my doubts about these Dragon Ball matchups.
Dragon Ball never dealt with poison effects against the SOUL, is basically the same as them shrugging off Concept/Law/Plot hax or other OP stuff just because they're used from Low 2-C and below characters.Would Sans's soul hax even work? Sans has been fighting 2Bs for a while now, and it always came down to 'ha ha soul hax go brrr', but wouldn't Piccolo (and the rest of the Dragon Ball verse for that matter) just be flatout way to strong for that to work? Jiren overpowered Hit's time manip just because he was too stronk. I honestly have my doubts about these Dragon Ball matchups.
Isn't hakai soul-destructing? On Beerus' profile it says it is in any case. Frieza could handle a hakai that came from Sidra, and from Toppo to some extend. this tells me that in Dragon Ball, overwhelming brute force overpowers hax. We're talking 9B vs 2Cs here, the power gap is insane.Dragon Ball never dealt with poison effects against the SOUL, is basically the same as them shrugging off Concept/Law/Plot hax or other OP stuff just because they're used from Low 2-C and below characters.
It destroys the soul as a side effect, it only negates it through applying a poison effect which corrodes it and drains the HP real fast.Isn't hakai soul-destructing? On Beerus' profile it says it is in any case. Frieza could handle a hakai that came from Sidra, and from Toppo to some extend. It's pretty much stated that in Dragon Ball, overwhelming brute force overpowers hax
I'm not yet buying that the Dragon Ball characters will be affected by Sans's soul destruction, so that leaves only the poison to deal with. Sans attacks first, poisons Piccolo. Piccolo is hurting. He fires a ki blasts, Sans dies.It destroys the soul as a side effect, it only negates it through applying a poison effect which corrodes it and drains the HP real fast.
Is like saying that you can resist acid only because you resist EE.
The soul destruction comes as a proxy, you can't say they'll be affected from the poison but not getting the soul destroyed, as again, you're saying that if you resist deconstruction/EE, you are affected from acid but not dying from it, which is nonsense.I'm not yet buying that the Dragon Ball characters will be affected by Sans's soul destruction, so that leaves only the poison to deal with. Sans attacks first, poison's Piccolo. Piccolo fires a ki blasts, Sans dies.
Hmm well if sans did have a "low power level"snip
I am pretty sure that ki sensing is not that accurate tbf, as only Cell for example was able to tell that Trunks' speed decreased with 3rd grade.Hmm well if sans did have a "low power level"
Wouldn't sans having attacks relative to piccolo speed put him on edge ?
from piccolo PoV it would make him cautious as he isnt the arrogant type
How am I saying that? Hakai's soul destruction can be resisted by being beeg and stronk, how would KARMA be any different? Piccolo is multiversal, Sans is wall level. This should leave only the poison as a factor, no?The soul destruction comes as a proxy, you can't say they'll be affected from the poison but not getting the soul destroyed, as again, you're saying that if you resist deconstruction/EE, you are affected from acid but not dying from it, which is nonsense.
Plus, ki blast is just a normal bullet patten in UT verse, so Sans will have 0 problems in dodging it.
Too bad that the KARMA does not just do that, I already explained above how it'll destroy his soul, as Hakai and KARMA works fundamentally different.How am I saying that? Hakai's soul destruction can be resisted by being beeg and stronk, how would KARMA be any different? Piccolo is multiversal, Sans is wall level. This should leave only the poison as a factor, no?
Dude. You're comparing someone who can constantly dodge attacks from a dude who can avoid stuff like this or this to random ki blasts.Fine then, Piccolo fires two ki blasts. If Sans keeps dodging, Piccolo AoEs and Sans dies. This just seems ridiculous.
Cell saying that Trunks got slower don't nescessary have anything to do with Ki sensing since he can just look on how slow Trunks is moving compared to before, i don't think that's Boast point.I am pretty sure that ki sensing is not that accurate tbf, as only Cell for example was able to tell that Trunks' speed decreased with 3rd grade.
Pretty sure that's headcanon.Plus if you're enormously bigger than the opponent, the ki reading will end up as very vague, as Beerus did say that base Buu saga Goku is weaker than Frieza, which we all know is absolute cap, but it can be explained that Beerus was so strong that he couldn't differenciate between two bugs on who was stronger.
* 2CsWould Sans's soul hax even work? Sans has been fighting 2Bs for a while now
From the Hax page:, and it always came down to 'ha ha soul hax go brrr', but wouldn't Piccolo (and the rest of the Dragon Ball verse for that matter) just be flatout way to strong for that to work? Jiren overpowered Hit's time manip just because he was too stronk. I honestly have my doubts about these Dragon Ball matchups.
This was rejected so many times as of now, it simply isn't true, or else krillin would be able to negate guldo's time stopIsn't hakai soul-destructing? On Beerus' profile it says it is in any case. Frieza could handle a hakai that came from Sidra, and from Toppo to some extend. this tells me that in Dragon Ball, overwhelming brute force overpowers hax.
I vote for PiccoloHow are the votes right now?
Is it still the same?
Sans 2?
Piccolo 1?
well, sans will atyack first no matter what, and if piccolo tries to block it he diesHe would just do the raditz treatment
When has piccolo ever resourted to crushing people with TK?or he can crush him with tk especially since Sans will somehow move him which will instantly set piccolo off and despite how he has mellowed out he doesn't give much off a shit about people he doesn't know still.
What does he have more that other db chars don't have? Also, why would he instantly trie to dodge everything instead of blocking like the people in DB commonly do?If the internet wanst so pior, would give more reasons to why Picollo wins this.
Because he have so much options to dodge or just killing Sans super fast, way more than the other DB matches.
He hadn't faced anyone that would break just from that. He can move people and lift structures as shown in Super though which would be enough against Sans.When has piccolo ever resourted to crushing people with TK?
Most people block because they know everything operates via Ki and if they are not sure of that they wouldn't try it.What does he have more that other db chars don't have? Also, why would he instantly trie to dodge everything instead of blocking like the people in DB commonly do?
He crushes him or blasts him.well, sans will atyack first no matter what, and if piccolo tries to block it he dies
We have enough to make one already i feelIf Uuber creates another Sans vs DB match soon after this one ends, a match restriction would probably need to be placed on him.
I'm not even a big supporter of DB but this is just reaching obnoxious levels, and is obviously mostly flamebait to pit two fandoms against each other and stir the pot.
And that proves that he would immediatly use that to crush someone just because he was trown in the ground because?He hadn't faced anyone that would break just from that.
Show me any proof at all that piccolo would go with that imediatly instead of a normal ki blastHe can move people and lift structures as shown in Super though which would be enough against Sans.
any reason for piccolo not to try and block the attacks he would know that are 9-B? Also you are going much of a headcanon of the specific way piccolo would fight, show me a scene where piccolo fights in such specific way that you are describingMost people block because they know everything operates via Ki and if they are not sure of that they wouldn't try it.
Not in characterHe crushes him
And sans easily dodges it and proceeds to blasy piccoloor blasts him.
Obviously, I don't see piccolo with resistence to dura neg, Nor Soul hax, nor poison induciment nor status inducementWould sans dura neg even work on Piccolo?
Why wouldn't it?Would sans dura neg even work on Piccolo?
Ye, I am doing the same rn coz they're all the same.If Uuber creates another Sans vs DB match soon after this one ends, a match restriction would probably need to be placed on him.
It is not poison, it is a status effectObviously, I don't see piccolo with resistence to dura neg, Nor Soul hax, nor poison induciment nor status inducement
Doesn't it kinda poisons the soul?It is not poison, it is a status effect